homebuying fun (caution: stupidly wide .jpg)

[fight4life28]

The type of water lines I am seeing the gray stuff. First kind pex when they were coming out. atleast here in PA they have gone threw homes and replaced everything. The issues will not stop unless the crap is taken out.. Take my word for it.. Replace everything you can reach and keep taking it out as you have issues. Least in my own home I would. Too much work to find leaks, and fix all the water damage..

[Exodus_2pt0]

Yeah it was at the t fitting that fed the toilet. Not comforting because everything LOOKED good, fitting was fine, pipe was fine, and the clamped looked good. But when I turned on the water it was spraying pretty good.

So I just cut the line before it and blocked it off. Once I've got the bathroom gutted I'm going to replace everything in there with pex. During that time I'm going to put a dehumidifier In there to dry up all the insulation, spray the entire area with mold killer, and rebuild.

The insulation is fiberglass, and the only mold there is on the paper/debri.

For the winter I'll be checking out the crawlspace every other week, and in the spring pull all the insulation from below, replace the rest of the polybutelyne with PEX, and reinsulate. Should be good to go then, hopefully.

[flyboyx]

did you find the actual leak yet?

That sucks, glad you planned ahead though and had the cash.i have to wonder though, would home owners insurance have covered something like that? I have to wonder since it would be obvious it occurred before you owned the place.

I got lucky with my house, purchased it from a co-worker when he retired and moved back to New York. He ended up getting screwed and had to spend a bit of money to get it to where FHA would finance it. (Things like coating the blocks in the crawl space, removing a very poorly built overhang on the side porch. Things that should have been done but the bank overlooked when he purchased because it was a foreclosure.)

It's interesting, there's a huge stigma against manufactured homes, even my Mom was advising against it. Banks don't want to finance, tons of extra requirements by the FHA. But when I spoke to my Father-in-law who works on homes for a living, he said that the modern ones are usually a very safe bet. OTOH, my brother just purchased a new (pre-owned) home. He looked at a ridiculous number of "stick built" homes before finding one that didn't have some kind of major issue with it.

Fingers crossed, I'd probably cry if I pulled up a floor to find that. After I wiped my tears I'd get my ass to work, but still!

i think manufactured homes are built more consistently than a stick built home because of quality control in the factory setting. however, there are things about them that aren't so great. for instance your floor is particle board. when it gets wet, it disintegrates. that would piss me off. also, your water pipes are made of grey plastic. what the hell is that? have you or anyone else seen that stuff at the home center? me neither. there has to be a good reason for that. i assume its because that is the most inexpensive water line that will actually meet code. i am going to guess that every 110 volt wire in the house is #14 on a 15 amp circuit instead of #12 on 20 amp circuits. the cost difference? about 200 bucks. i don't want to scare you but there are probably 100 other things that were done to cut costs that won't benefit you in the long run as a home owner.

[Exodus_2pt0]

Well, looks like it spread to the bedroom a bit.

Good news is that the walls were installed over the linoleum, and the linoleum was left extending past this damage into the bedroom. So neither the carpet of the walls have been damaged. Whew!

Got an adapter and made a temporary block off. Yay for running water in the rest of the house.

Now to take a break from the madness.

IMG_20170730_135912180 by Exodus_2pt0, on Flickr

IMG_20170730_182350699 by Exodus_2pt0, on Flickr

[Exodus_2pt0]

That's a damn nightmare! Looks like what I expect my boat to be when I pull the floor up.

But a house?!

I just had to open my damn mouth.

Posted about this in the nonsense thread, decided to go ahead and bring it here.

Water line, I should have been paying more attention to the breaking grout. Tile floor hid the issue until the water line completely let go. Still haven't found the source so I'm going to completely pull up the tile before cutting anymore out. I'm getting nervous about how far the damage has spread. At this point it looks like i'll be gutting the entire bathroom.

Also, mold. nice.

Ugh by Exodus_2pt0, on Flickr

[FireFight]

I put my offer for the house at 20,000 over, then after the inspection I told my realtor I wanted to pull out unless they went back to asking and replaced the roof. They also cover closing, so I didn't see fit going after the old owners, but in some cases you can go back on the sellers if they hid somthing during the sell that they knew, atleast that's what I was told after all this mess

[FireFight]

Idk if it would, to get the mortgage I had to have insurance right off the bat. A safe bet is work in a "home warrenty" in to the closing agreements. My buddy did that and had a issue like mine, not as bad, and they covered it 100%.

The crazy thing is the market here is I still paid a good amount for the house, just as much as my boss paid for his super nice house in Arizona, my neighbor just sold his house for almost half a million. And based of zillows super inflated estimate I have like $80,000 in equity, and that has no bearing on the work we have put in, but again those are super inflated.
We would like to sell in 5 years, that way you don't owe taxes off any profit of the house

I think the stigma is because they are closely related to trailers since they can be moved, but I looked at a couple in a rual area that was on big chunk of land. The commute was a deal killer for me

[Exodus_2pt0]

That sucks, glad you planned ahead though and had the cash.i have to wonder though, would home owners insurance have covered something like that? I have to wonder since it would be obvious it occurred before you owned the place.

I got lucky with my house, purchased it from a co-worker when he retired and moved back to New York. He ended up getting screwed and had to spend a bit of money to get it to where FHA would finance it. (Things like coating the blocks in the crawl space, removing a very poorly built overhang on the side porch. Things that should have been done but the bank overlooked when he purchased because it was a foreclosure.)

It's interesting, there's a huge stigma against manufactured homes, even my Mom was advising against it. Banks don't want to finance, tons of extra requirements by the FHA. But when I spoke to my Father-in-law who works on homes for a living, he said that the modern ones are usually a very safe bet. OTOH, my brother just purchased a new (pre-owned) home. He looked at a ridiculous number of "stick built" homes before finding one that didn't have some kind of major issue with it.

Fingers crossed, I'd probably cry if I pulled up a floor to find that. After I wiped my tears I'd get my ass to work, but still!

[FireFight]

That's a damn nightmare! Looks like what I expect my boat to be when I pull the floor up.

But a house?!

Yeah, the old utility sink next to the washer was the problem, it leaked under the sheet flooring and spread like herpes. the market over here is so crazy, i put an offer on the house before seeing it.

[Exodus_2pt0]

That's a damn nightmare! Looks like what I expect my boat to be when I pull the floor up.

But a house?!

[rturbo 930]

^ Damn excellent work. Sucks the inspector missed all of that. But glad you were able to handle it.

Part of the reason I do my own home inspections, with the aid of my now personal GC. No one cares as much about your things as you do. Some inspectors I have witnessed were incredibly lazy/incompetent. And they wanted 4-500 for 40 minutes of their time. No thanks.

My parents sold a ~180 year old building last year. Huge, three stories. I won't go into details, but let's just say there were a few issues we knew of, the sort of thing you'd definitely want to know about and are not exactly easy to miss, that the inspector didn't get. I think I'll be doing my own inspections - or at least in addition to a professional one. It sold though. Thank god. Place was a nightmare.

Thanks guys, looking back it was alot of fun, but at the time i was pretty much mental exhausted. the inspector refunded me my money after I sent him pictures.
Oregon has strange laws for inspectors, they aren't allowed move anything, or "damage" anything, so moving the insulation out of the way was not allowed? and putting a moisture meter in the wall is not allowed. Basically they can just look at the house and say, yep this is a house haha

long story short, next time i will inspect it myself with my father.

Well that's nice that you got your money back... I'm sure that helped a lot compared to what it cost to fix it all.

Sounds like Oregon's inspection laws need major changes. That's a bunch of bullshit.

[MR E30 325is]

Someone flagged it, :(

some people hate bewbs

Some people are friggin losers

[FireFight]

Someone flagged it, :(

some people hate bewbs

[2mAn]

@Firefight. I hate your new sig... what happened to the bewbs?

[FireFight]

Thanks guys, looking back it was alot of fun, but at the time i was pretty much mental exhausted. the inspector refunded me my money after I sent him pictures.
Oregon has strange laws for inspectors, they aren't allowed move anything, or "damage" anything, so moving the insulation out of the way was not allowed? and putting a moisture meter in the wall is not allowed. Basically they can just look at the house and say, yep this is a house haha

long story short, next time i will inspect it myself with my father.