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    well, okay so a piece of metal isn't exactly electronic. oh well






    U.S. to Mandate Anti-Rollover Technology

    U.S. to Require Automakers to Include Electronic Stability Control Devices on All New Vehicles

    By KEN THOMAS

    The Associated Press

    WASHINGTON - The government, impressed by the promise of anti-rollover technology, is planning to require automakers to include electronic stability control devices on all new vehicles in the coming years.
    The technology has been hailed by automakers, suppliers and safety advocates for its potential in reducing traffic deaths and rollovers. The government's top traffic safety official has said it could have the greatest affect on auto safety since the arrival of seat belts.
    About 40 percent of new vehicles have it as standard equipment and auto industry officials expect it to be available on all vehicles by 2010. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is set to unveil proposed rules for stability control on Thursday that also will include testing standards for auto manufacturers. NHTSA officials have declined to release details.
    One study found that stability control could lead to a reduction of 10,000 deaths a year if all vehicles had the technology, almost one-quarter of the more than 43,000 people killed on the roads annually.
    "These are staggering statistics compared to most safety technologies that are installed on the vehicles today. This technology will save lives," said William Kozyra, president and CEO of Continental Automotive Systems, North America, a leading supplier of stability control.
    Kozyra called it "the most important automotive safety technology of our generation."
    The crash avoidance technology senses when a driver may lose control, automatically applying brakes to individual wheels to help make it stable and avoid a rollover. Many sport utility vehicles, vans and pickups have the equipment.
    NHTSA Administrator Nicole Nason has said the agency will mandate the equipment, estimating it would save 10,600 lives when fully implemented into the fleet. During a July hearing before Congress, she said it "could be the greatest safety innovation since the safety belt."
    Rollovers have had particularly fatal consequences, leading to more than 10,000 deaths a year despite accounting for only about 3 percent of all crashes. SUVs and other vehicles with high centers of gravity have been susceptible to rollovers.
    Automakers have been receptive to the technology and have indicated little resistance in the decision to mandate the equipment because they have already been including it on their vehicles.
    Ford Motor Co. announced Wednesday that it would make it standard equipment in all new vehicles by the end of 2009 while General Motors Corp. has said it will be included in all vehicles by the end of 2010. Virtually all Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles have it as an option and it has been standard on all Toyota SUVs since the 2004 model year.
    Joan Claybrook, a former NHTSA administrator and head of Public Citizen, a consumer watchdog, called electronic stability control "breakthrough technology" but said it would be difficult to predict how many lives it could save.
    Early in the development of the air bag, she said initial studies predicted it could save about 9,000 people a year, much higher than the 2,300 lives it saves annually.
    "Until you get it into production and onto vehicles, you don't know how large the numbers are going to be," Claybrook said.
    A study by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety earlier this year predicted 10,000 deaths could be prevented a year if passenger vehicles had the technology. The study found stability control reduced the risk of single-vehicle rollovers involving SUVs by 80 percent.
    One of the benefits of stability control is that it doesn't require anything from the driver. While other crash avoidance technologies, such as lane departure warning, require the driver to react, stability control senses the vehicle veering out of control and stabilizes it.
    "There really isn't any downsides that we're seeing," said Russ Rader, an Insurance Institute spokesman. Electronic Stability Control "is in a unique club with only seat belts and air bags for it's lifesaving potential."
    Automakers caution that seat belts will remain the most essential tool in avoiding death or injury in a crash. Seat belts save an estimated 15,000 motorist a year.
    Robert Yakushi, Nissan North America Inc.'s director of product safety, environmental, said the technology "shouldn't be characterized as a cure-all for all handling situations" but something that helps drivers maintain control in some situations.
    "If everyone depends on vehicle stability control, I think, to save them in every situation, I think that builds overconfidence in the driver," Yakushi said, stressing that "the driver is key to vehicle safety."

    On the Net:
    National Highway Traffic Safety Administration: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov
    Insurance Institute for Highway Safety: http://www.iihs.org/

    Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
    Copyright © 2006 ABC News Internet Ventures
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    Yeah, I watched a clip about this on TV this morning. THey showed a CopCam that caught an SUV rollover on the Freeway.

    The driver went off with two wheels and then proceeded to cut hard to try and correct. No shit that at 75 its going to spin, and then due to the high CG, flip. If we just required people to take more intensive driver instruction, they'd know that.

    Instead, its one more idiot proof device that gets added. And adds to the cost of the car.
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      #3
      More Big Brother crap. Eventually we'll all be forced to wear diapers, full body armor, helmets, and LoJack just to go to the corner store.

      I can't wait for the Feds to emasculate all the new cars. The price of E30's is going to skyrocket.
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        #4
        Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo
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          #5
          unbelievable. Perhaps we should also mandate some more extensive driver education programs like in Europe. Make the cost of earning and recieving a license $2000 and the amount of idiots on the road would be fractioned. but whos got time for rational ideas that dont necessarily make money???? NOT IN THIS COUNTRY!! haha

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            #6
            Originally posted by DaveCN View Post
            Yeah, I watched a clip about this on TV this morning. THey showed a CopCam that caught an SUV rollover on the Freeway.

            The driver went off with two wheels and then proceeded to cut hard to try and correct. No shit that at 75 its going to spin, and then due to the high CG, flip. If we just required people to take more intensive driver instruction, they'd know that.

            Instead, its one more idiot proof device that gets added. And adds to the cost of the car.
            agree with ya completly. they showed the same clip over here.

            Got to find some way to protect the fucking morons who drive "waste of space, money and petrol" SUVs

            most pointless vehicles ever.
            /rant

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              #7
              Someone in Germany please respond about how intensive, expensive, and how much a responsiblity and privelige, getting a license out in the fatherland.

              I watched a piece on getting your license out there, and it blew me away, but I know that it we had that we'd have less ridiculous stuff.
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                #8
                Originally posted by CleanAzzE30z View Post
                unbelievable. Perhaps we should also mandate some more extensive driver education programs like in Europe. Make the cost of earning and recieving a license $2000 and the amount of idiots on the road would be fractioned. but whos got time for rational ideas that dont necessarily make money???? NOT IN THIS COUNTRY!! haha

                Mariano
                I was talking with a Japanese girl today and it was $3000 for her to get her liscence in Japan. Shit youd have to drive well just not to be out 3k.

                Also it wasnt Firestone's fault those people died.
                Im now E30less.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ryan Stewart View Post
                  Also it wasnt Firestone's fault those people died.
                  No doubt. Every day I see cars on the road with seriously underinflated tires - mostly soccer moms in SUV's and minivans.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lair View Post
                    No doubt. Every day I see cars on the road with seriously underinflated tires - mostly soccer moms in SUV's and minivans.
                    Car and Driver tried to recreate the accidents and the only way they could get a rollover from the tread coming off a tire was to do something that would cause a rollover even if the tread hadnt come off the tire.

                    So driving like an idiot (while driving a tall vehicle) is what killed those people.
                    Im now E30less.
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                      #11
                      God this pisses me off. Are they really going to mandate that for ALL cars?? I mean, it makes sense to keep idiots in SUVs killing themselves (I guess), but most normal cars with normal heights, not even to mention sports cars, are not going to benifit from that, at all.

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                        #12
                        Though I think this mandate is insane, big government BS, I disagree that making getting a drivers license cost $2-3K would solve much of anything in this country. It seems like every day I turn on the news there is another story with some 17 year old kid wrapping a high priced luxury vehicle around a tree, utility pole, wall or other unmovable object.

                        If these kids are finding their way into 30K+ vehicles there is gong to be someone standing behind them with a check book in the licensing line ready to pay whatever it might cost, while other people who may legitimately need a license to get to and from work would not be able to afford one.

                        I submit that in places like Japan the high cost of licensing is probably to keep the cities from being more overrun than they already are with traffic problems.

                        My bottom line is that wherever you are from driving is a privilege and automobiles should be treated with respect, but that isn't being taught anymore. How many of those soccer mom's in SUV's do you see chatting on their damn phones as they drive their kids around, changing lanes without signaling, rolling through stop signs and braking late? Happens all the time and if their kids tear their attention away from the 5 TV screens that surrounding them for even a few minutes this is the example they see.

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                          #13
                          The problem is that you are only seeing 1/2 of the idea. It's $3,000 to get your license in fees, but it doesnt mean you drop it off at the cashiers and pick up your license in the next window.

                          There are countless driving tests, driving for hours with instructors, etc.... they MAKE you a better driver.

                          Hell, in Brazil we even take psych tests to get our licenses.

                          And my share to this conversation.... I agree that once again the DOT and the ones in charge of automotive/highway safety are going in the wrong direction and that education would be a better way to do it, but honestly What sports car today doesnt have traction control? You cant even turn them off in some cars already.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by CleanAzzE30z View Post
                            unbelievable. Perhaps we should also mandate some more extensive driver education programs like in Europe. Make the cost of earning and recieving a license $2000 and the amount of idiots on the road would be fractioned. but whos got time for rational ideas that dont necessarily make money???? NOT IN THIS COUNTRY!! haha

                            Mariano

                            +100000 I agree completely !

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                              #15
                              My check book / licensing line quib was not meant to be taken (entirely) literally, though whether you are talking about actual licensing fees or the cost of driving courses the point is still valid.

                              Also, I am for more training and tests...I think that is a good idea. I just don't think it is in our best interests to let the federal government design and mandate drivers ed programs. That is how improved driving courses that may cost $1500 end up costing $3000.

                              Plus, there is no ring to the slogan "War on fender benders" :)

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