Gun Guys, Assault Wepons Ban is back

[bilson]

However I can't understand (as a non american) your obsession and gun culture.. Its not so much the recreation side of things but the self-protection and patriotic-ness of them.

I think it's because most American's (maybe even most people in general) feel the need to be their own, and their family's protector. And a gun may seem like the most practical matter of protection.

[dlmpsy]

For those reading these forums who may not know much about firearms and/or laws, in the US you cannot leagally own a fully automatic firearm unless you have a special license (background checks, police department approval/notification) and have about $3000 or more to buy the gun. Everyone that buys a gun fills out a form that asks various quesions about drug use, mental health treatment, etc., and then there is a background check by phone. A felon can't "legally" own a gun, nor someone who has had certain types of mental health problems or who has been convicted of domestic violence. Some states (California, New Jersey, Maryland) and cities have very strict laws (New York, Washington DC) but crime is still high in these areas for some reason. The guns that are relatively easy to get that are semi-automatic (shoots one time/trigger pull) and that are relatively affordable are AK (non-automatic), AR-15 (non-automatic), .22 caliber rifles, etc. All of these guns cost about $200 to $900. Most crimes are commited with pistols, not rifles. Why own a semi-automatic gun? If you hunt it is quicker to shoot, if you target shoot you don't have to reload and change positions with each shot. What makes a rifle an "assault rifle"? A pistol grip, bayonet lug, flash suppressor and the gun must be semi-automatic. I live in an area where gun ownership is a way of life. There are very, very few people who are shot and few robberies. Ultimately owning a gun is a personal choice like any other choice. If you don't own a gun, try not to judge the millions of responsible gun owners by what a politician with an agenda has to say, or by watching the actions of criminals on the evening news.

[Vedubin01]

thank God someone knows what they talk about! Hats off to you sir!

For those reading these forums who may not know much about firearms and/or laws, in the US you cannot leagally own a fully automatic firearm unless you have a special license (background checks, police department approval/notification) and have about $3000 or more to buy the gun. Everyone that buys a gun fills out a form that asks various quesions about drug use, mental health treatment, etc., and then there is a background check by phone. A felon can't "legally" own a gun, nor someone who has had certain types of mental health problems or who has been convicted of domestic violence. Some states (California, New Jersey, Maryland) and cities have very strict laws (New York, Washington DC) but crime is still high in these areas for some reason. The guns that are relatively easy to get that are semi-automatic (shoots one time/trigger pull) and that are relatively affordable are AK (non-automatic), AR-15 (non-automatic), .22 caliber rifles, etc. All of these guns cost about $200 to $900. Most crimes are commited with pistols, not rifles. Why own a semi-automatic gun? If you hunt it is quicker to shoot, if you target shoot you don't have to reload and change positions with each shot. What makes a rifle an "assault rifle"? A pistol grip, bayonet lug, flash suppressor and the gun must be semi-automatic. I live in an area where gun ownership is a way of life. There are very, very few people who are shot and few robberies. Ultimately owning a gun is a personal choice like any other choice. If you don't own a gun, try not to judge the millions of responsible gun owners by what a politician with an agenda has to say, or by watching the actions of criminals on the evening news.

[joshh]

I don't think that's the issue. "Cop killer" bullets are what the Lefties whine about. Not realising there are hand guns that can go through vests.

[e30sd]

wow look at all the hackjob e30's on this board. now look at trashy e30 owners talk about guns. lol.

[h0lmes]

I don't think that's the issue. "Cop killer" bullets are what the Lefties whine about. Not realising there are hand guns that can go through vests.

a fucking deagle maybe

[mrsleeve]

Well I came across this the other day. If you feel as I do an many other legal gun owners sign it.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/409898348?ltl=1172461517

[KangamangusDriver]

I own a cannon....

[MikeE30325i]

i think we shoudl just make bullets like 600 dolalrs a piece.

[KenC]

i think we shoudl just make bullets like 600 dolalrs a piece.

thanks for the input, chris rock

[MikeE30325i]

thanks for the input, chris rock

LOL. that skit was pretty good.

especially the part about putting the dead lima bean in a baby bottle.

[RCWells]

Well some of my peace of mind arrived yesterday and this is it's current iteration, but of course, will be modded (even more):





Soon to follow, Glock 20 with many a mod as well, can't wait!

[Nick325is]

Enjoy the bushmaster. Although with the price of .223 these days you'll quickly pay for the gun again in ammo.

I picked up 500rounds of 7.62x39 at a show last weekend and it cost me 90 dollars. Certainly a far cry from the 110-120 for 1000 rounds a few years ago.


-Nick
Also a gun owning democrat

[Massive Lee]

Well some of my peace of mind arrived yesterday and this is it's current iteration, but of course, will be modded (even more)

He, he. Modded as in "semi-automatic to automatic"?

That rifle looks nice. Is that a repro or a modern day M16? With the front handle, it kinda looks like a Thompson machine gun from the 1930's. I don't like/need gun but still recognize the beauty of an object.

[Jscotty]

Imagine the following scenario:
Robber #1: "Hey, lets go get a gun and rob a bank."
Robber #2: "We can't! Don't you know that guns are illegal?"
Robber #1: "Oh yeah.. that's right. Lets go play Bingo instead!"

Here in Washington DC we have a COMPLETE ban on guns and the result is that only the criminals are permitted to have guns. And gun crimes are so common that if you sit in the courts and hear the cases, sometimes they will never bring up the fact that they had illegal posession of a gun. They might get nailed for armed robbery.. but they dont get charged separately for posessing the weapon. And now along comes Mr. Goody 2 Shoes Law Abiding Citizen who happens to have a gun in his car because he drove over the state line from Maryland on his way home from the shooting range and crossed through the city to avoid a traffic jam. Cops pull him over, find the LICENSED gun on him and now he is facing 15 years for illegal gun posession.

But when I hear bullets being shot off in the distance while on the street, I never see the cops running towards the noise to investigate who has a gun in their posession. Also when I see some of the drug dealers on the street flaunting their jacket pocket or they may lift up their shirt so people can see it wedged between their belt so that everyone KNOWS that they have a gun yet the cops drive right on by and nobody does anything about it.