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    #16
    Originally posted by blunt View Post
    pawn stores prey on the unfortunate lower class and cater to thieves. i hate them and would never even walk in the door of one. you may be getting a good deal but at the expense of some poor bastard who cant pay his mortgage or worse yet youre buying that poor bastards tools that some low life stole.
    Aside from stealing I don't give a shit. Maybe the poor bastard who can't pay his mortgage shouldn't be out buying new xboxs and play stations and tons of other crap they can't afford. They are lower class for a reason, they can't manage money or never decided to go anywhere in life. I feel no pity for them.
    Rollin' with a Geistkuchen

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      #17
      I sold a set of never used golf clubs to a pawn shop once...Well a "play-it-again sports" store...

      I just wanted the cash, and didn't want to deal with selling them.

      Put $$$ in my pocket, and I was happy...
      Originally posted by Matt-B
      hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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        #18
        Originally posted by equate975 View Post
        Maybe the poor bastard who can't pay his mortgage shouldn't be out buying new xboxs and play stations and tons of other crap they can't afford. They are lower class for a reason, they can't manage money or never decided to go anywhere in life. I feel no pity for them.
        Right, because that's the reason every single lower class family is lower class, right? You've been to every one of these people's homes and seen this for yourself? You know for a fact that there aren't other circumstances that may have arisen that could have forced those people to give up their more valuable and treasured possesions? You've been there for every step of these people's lives, and you were there when they "decided" to never go anywhere in life? You know for a fact that none of these people ever get laid off from their jobs or downsized out of their companies, and had to do whatever they could to feed, clothe and shelter their families?

        No, that's what I thought. You weren't there for all of those things, and you don't know all of that shit for a fact. You just went ahead and assumed that because you're fortunate enough at this point to be in a position where you have it good, that all of those lower-class peices of shit just made a concious decision to be poor, and realize that they're never going to be as good as you, right?

        Seriously, fuck straight off.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Mr. Anderson View Post
          Right, because that's the reason every single lower class family is lower class, right? You've been to every one of these people's homes and seen this for yourself? You know for a fact that there aren't other circumstances that may have arisen that could have forced those people to give up their more valuable and treasured possesions? You've been there for every step of these people's lives, and you were there when they "decided" to never go anywhere in life? You know for a fact that none of these people ever get laid off from their jobs or downsized out of their companies, and had to do whatever they could to feed, clothe and shelter their families?

          No, that's what I thought. You weren't there for all of those things, and you don't know all of that shit for a fact. You just went ahead and assumed that because you're fortunate enough at this point to be in a position where you have it good, that all of those lower-class peices of shit just made a concious decision to be poor, and realize that they're never going to be as good as you, right?

          Seriously, fuck straight off.
          Truth is that a large portion of lower class people are poor due to their own poor planning / spending. People in the upper / middle class are usually better prepared for life situations thus a lay off or life emergency does not automatically force them into the lower class.

          If there is one thing I've noticed that many lower class people have in common is that they tend to always blame their misfortune and problems on something other than themselves.

          And of course the most important less pawn shops teach us..

          "A fool and his money are soon parted"

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            #20
            i think that there are only two real reasons people go to pawn shops. 1) to get a loan for their things they are willing to give up. or plain and simple, get a quick loan, thats what pawn shop's busniess is. and 2) to buy stuff that people havent bothered to return for. all the other stuff said are all assumptions for why people go there.

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              #21
              Originally posted by RobertK View Post
              Truth is that a large portion of lower class people are poor due to their own poor planning / spending. People in the upper / middle class are usually better prepared for life situations thus a lay off or life emergency does not automatically force them into the lower class.

              If there is one thing I've noticed that many lower class people have in common is that they tend to always blame their misfortune and problems on something other than themselves.

              And of course the most important less pawn shops teach us..

              "A fool and his money are soon parted"
              Doesn't matter how well you plan /spend, if you don't have skills to earn a decent wage you're going to be poor. Truth is that most poor people are poor because they have no "in demand" skills. Manual labor jobs tend to be the only ones they are qualified for. Also, if you are poor, chances are that your parents were poor and their parents were poor, and so on........Poverty tends to be passed down from generation to generation. That would indicate that it's not such an easy thing to overcome.

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                #22
                exactly. like traits you are born with, although you can do something about this particular trait

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by equate975 View Post
                  Aside from stealing I don't give a shit. Maybe the poor bastard who can't pay his mortgage shouldn't be out buying new xboxs and play stations and tons of other crap they can't afford. They are lower class for a reason, they can't manage money or never decided to go anywhere in life. I feel no pity for them.
                  How old are you? You sound like a spoiled kid that has never known reality.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Bimmerboy91 View Post
                    exactly. like traits you are born with, although you can do something about this particular trait
                    Yes you can do something about it, but you can't do it by yourself. We're not born with skills, they have to be learned, which means someone has to teach you. If your parent has no skills, and their friends have no skills, where do the skills come from?

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Mr. Anderson View Post
                      Right, because that's the reason every single lower class family is lower class, right? You've been to every one of these people's homes and seen this for yourself? You know for a fact that there aren't other circumstances that may have arisen that could have forced those people to give up their more valuable and treasured possesions? You've been there for every step of these people's lives, and you were there when they "decided" to never go anywhere in life? You know for a fact that none of these people ever get laid off from their jobs or downsized out of their companies, and had to do whatever they could to feed, clothe and shelter their families?

                      No, that's what I thought. You weren't there for all of those things, and you don't know all of that shit for a fact. You just went ahead and assumed that because you're fortunate enough at this point to be in a position where you have it good, that all of those lower-class peices of shit just made a concious decision to be poor, and realize that they're never going to be as good as you, right?

                      Seriously, fuck straight off.
                      Equate does have point... I know too many 'adults' that save up for months, busting their ass trying to get $600 for a ps3. You shouldn't have to do that. If you can't buy your small toys like that with one or two paychecks, then you're obviously not in the best financial situation. Take the money and put it somewhere that is going to help you make more money, a PS3 isn't going to do that. Now notice, I said 'adult', not kid who still lives with parents.
                      91 m3

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                        #26
                        There will always be poor people among us for various reasons. One of which that many do not consider is the fact that some people become disabled and are not able to earn a living. They may have physical or mental problems beyond their control or they very well could have made mistakes in life.

                        Also add to the fact that many poor people were never taught things like how to manage money, develop a budget, or how to work towards getting a better career. Its not always a situation where someone consciencely decided that they didn't want to go anywhere in life, but its that they were never taught that there were places in life to go other than the rat hole they currently live in.

                        We take for granted that we were raised in environments where we knew that there were bigger and better things in life while other people generationally have only known that what you get is all you can ever have.

                        So is it a crime for poor people to want the same things that their richer counterparts have even though they really can't afford it? Regardless of who you are- rich, poor or otherwise, we all like nice things. And those of us who use the pawn shop understand that we cannot keep the things that we wanted even though we were able to enjoy them for a short time.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by chucko View Post
                          Yes you can do something about it, but you can't do it by yourself. We're not born with skills, they have to be learned, which means someone has to teach you. If your parent has no skills, and their friends have no skills, where do the skills come from?
                          holy shit, crack open a god damn book. Plenty of skills out there....and the library is free too.
                          tasty

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by s0urce View Post
                            holy shit, crack open a god damn book. Plenty of skills out there....and the library is free too.
                            You would be surprised at how many people have very poor reading comprehension skills.

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                              #29
                              A human being is an organism.

                              Organisms are products of their genetics and their environment.

                              In reality, nothing is "our fault". We are just complex, organic anomalies. The matter that makes up "ourselves" has been around for billions of years. It's just come together in a curious, self-aware form. We did not create the universe, and we do not create our own universe. We just move through time in a predetermined path (predetermined by the state of the universe at the point where out molecules come together, which was predetermined at the beginning of time).

                              The poor are not poor because they are necessarily lazy. They are poor because their environment, both social and material, did not instill them with the skills to "succeed", as we see it. Or, in rarer cases, it could be that their genetic makeup is predisposed to "fail"

                              At the most basic level, nobody is to blame for anything, because nobody really exists. "We" are all just part of the infinite cosmos. Our thoughts and awareness are nothing more than the result of a "random" occurrence of lipids and amino acids in the environment billions of years ago.

                              We are arbitrarily complex, but in the end we are just a collection atoms doing what atoms do.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Jordan325iC View Post
                                A human being is an organism.

                                Organisms are products of their genetics and their environment.

                                In reality, nothing is "our fault". We are just complex, organic anomalies. The matter that makes up "ourselves" has been around for billions of years. It's just come together in a curious, self-aware form. We did not create the universe, and we do not create our own universe. We just move through time in a predetermined path (predetermined by the state of the universe at the point where out molecules come together, which was predetermined at the beginning of time).

                                The poor are not poor because they are necessarily lazy. They are poor because their environment, both social and material, did not instill them with the skills to "succeed", as we see it. Or, in rarer cases, it could be that their genetic makeup is predisposed to "fail"

                                At the most basic level, nobody is to blame for anything, because nobody really exists. "We" are all just part of the infinite cosmos. Our thoughts and awareness are nothing more than the result of a "random" occurrence of lipids and amino acids in the environment billions of years ago.

                                We are arbitrarily complex, but in the end we are just a collection atoms doing what atoms do.
                                What a fucking cop-out. I take responsibility for every action I take, both good and bad. Biggest crock of shit I've read since Kevins middle earth theory.

                                You lose.
                                tasty

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