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  • nefarious7907
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    Hey I live in KS, but here in north eastern part this is almost no chance of there being a tornado. JINX. There are too many house and too many trees for a tornado to gain enough momentum.

    Thank God that the only building left standing in that town was the bar.

    Congrats Ryan on standing up for Kansas, I still need to check out your S50/E30 sometime.

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  • brodee
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    Originally posted by Digitalwave
    A very horrible tragedy indeed. I will be praying for your family and the town, Thad.
    Thanks TJ.

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  • Digitalwave
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    A very horrible tragedy indeed. I will be praying for your family and the town, Thad.

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  • Ryan Stewart
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    Originally posted by ivo316
    Sorry to hear that, it's terrible to have your whole town destroyed, it will take them all their strength to overcome it.

    Sorry for asking this, but in the news here it seems that in that area houses are built mostly with wood and light materials, here in chile (due to the earthquake thing) houses HAVE TO BE BUILT with: concrete reinforced with steel pillars, brick walls, concretre foundation (at least 0.8 meters deep), the point is that since the highest wind speed recorded in chile was 87 miles per hour the houses have not been tested above that, do you know if the concrete houses or buildings in the area survived ?
    A tornado will remove concrete bridges and strip the earth of roadways. They dont fuck around.

    And the risk of actually being hit by a tornado is pretty slim. Even here where its the most likely, you can go your entire life without seeing one, let alone being impacted by one.

    That and earthquakes > tornado in destructive power. Shit, a basement > tornado.

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  • assoutE12
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    Originally posted by ivo316
    Sorry to hear that, it's terrible to have your whole town destroyed, it will take them all their strength to overcome it.

    Sorry for asking this, but in the news here it seems that in that area houses are built mostly with wood and light materials, here in chile (due to the earthquake thing) houses HAVE TO BE BUILT with: concrete reinforced with steel pillars, brick walls, concretre foundation (at least 0.8 meters deep), the point is that since the highest wind speed recorded in chile was 87 miles per hour the houses have not been tested above that, do you know if the concrete houses or buildings in the area survived ?

    That there sounds like science to me. we just pray round these parts.

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  • ivo316
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    Thanks, i just wanted to know if concrete houses/buildings survived, I think the grain elevators survive more because of their shapes than because of the materials.

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  • bimmer8604
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    Just about everything in that town was over 20+ years old. The schools there were built in 1920, as were many of the other prominent buildings. Up here we don't typically build the houses out of concrete, but most new homes contain a thick concrete storm shelter. There are very few building codes regarding Tornadoes. I know they do a lot of testing on it, but don't think anything is mandated. A lot of the brick buildings were demolished, but some how the grain elevators survived. But just about everything residential and some commercial is built with just wood/brick.

    Plus, its hard to build anything that will take a direct impact at those kinds of wind speeds. As Ryan stated it was 1/2 mile wide.

    kyle

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  • ivo316
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    Sorry to hear that, it's terrible to have your whole town destroyed, it will take them all their strength to overcome it.

    Sorry for asking this, but in the news here it seems that in that area houses are built mostly with wood and light materials, here in chile (due to the earthquake thing) houses HAVE TO BE BUILT with: concrete reinforced with steel pillars, brick walls, concretre foundation (at least 0.8 meters deep), the point is that since the highest wind speed recorded in chile was 87 miles per hour the houses have not been tested above that, do you know if the concrete houses or buildings in the area survived ?

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  • Jscotty
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    Originally posted by e30sd
    california has collapsing freeways and shit. but i still love this place.
    What they ought to do is develop a California earthquake standard for cars where the vehicle has a roll cage that can withstand the weight of a collapsing freeway, or overpass.

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  • e30sd
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    california has collapsing freeways and shit. but i still love this place.

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  • Ryan Stewart
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    Originally posted by 318isbmw
    I've been thru 2 earthquakes living by Seattle in my entire life... I'd say there is more disaster's in the midwest, but more power to u and ur family for living there none the less cuz of family ties and heritage. Good luck to your family rebuilding.
    This specific tornado was 1/2 mile wide and only a few people actually got caught up in it. Kansas is 82,000 square miles. So its a 1 in 82000 chance an existing storm will affect you. I like those odds.

    Tornados come with warnings. Last time I checked the best they were hoping for was a few minutes of warnings for earthquakes. There almost nowhere indoors is safe.

    Hurricanes? Anyone remember andrew? All of central florida looked like this one town. More people died, and they still had a shitload of warning.


    Kansas is LOW on the list of dangerous places to be, this town just got the direct hit.
    Originally posted by bmmf
    Kansas would be tight if it had some mountains to put all that snow to good use.
    We get maybe 3 good days of snow a year and it usually melts within a week.


    Are people really that ignorant about what goes on in their own country?

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  • bmmf
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    Kansas would be tight if it had some mountains to put all that snow to good use.

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  • bimmer8604
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    Originally posted by Jon325i
    Good point, but I'm just referencing natural disasters - not unnatural disasters (crime, politicians, mandating hybrid cars, etc.). In California, we are king when it comes to the disasters of the unnatural kind :-P

    Jon
    I totally understand, I just thought it would be kind of interesting to do a comparison, i get asked these questions all the time about 'livin in Kansa`'

    Can't beat the Cali weather, but the midwest has awesome weather, too. I like seeing all 4 seasons!(But I think I like the beach better)

    kyle

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  • Jon325i
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    Originally posted by bimmer8604
    i wonder how many people are killed annually in cali, or hell, LA county by gunshot or other acts of violence versus how many people are killed in the Midwest by Tornado's. just a thought. Granted there are way more people in LA county than there are in the whole state of Kansas, so I'll include the surrounding states. And remember, people live in these places by choice.

    kyle
    Good point, but I'm just referencing natural disasters - not unnatural disasters (crime, politicians, mandating hybrid cars, etc.). In California, we are king when it comes to the disasters of the unnatural kind :-P

    Jon

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  • bimmer8604
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    i wonder how many people are killed annually in cali, or hell, LA county by gunshot or other acts of violence versus how many people are killed in the Midwest by Tornadoes. just a thought. Granted there are way more people in LA county than there are in the whole state of Kansas, so I'll include the surrounding states. And remember, people live in these places by choice.

    kyle

    Edit: did some research, interesting stuff.

    From LAPD website, 2006 homicides: 160
    (http://www.lapdonline.org/assets/pdf/cityprof.pdf)

    From NOAA website, 2006 # of deaths from tornadoes: 66 (none in KS btw)
    (http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/torn/2006deadlytorn.html)
    Last edited by bimmer8604; 05-07-2007, 03:11 PM.

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