I love freedom of speech

[Il Duce]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD5WlQ54Sg0

Interesting.



I hope we can all keep this thread on topic. Please only comment on the video, I don't want to cause problems- I'm just sharing.

[JPL]

I really like the video. its new and unique. that "nigga" is a fuckin dumbass though.

[Jscotty]

I thought that the video was very creative! I like how the camera follows the words as they appear. I think that it has the potential to improve the reading skills of todays youth.

[rede30]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo_QVq2lGMs cool vid, this one is along the same lines.

[Tree18is]

hmm

well i guess my friend Batcher died for no reason..
freedom of speech yes, but i bet that "nigga" isn't capeable of enough discipline to not curse in front of god.
and the projects didn't get blown up, it was 2,973 passengers and building occupants and 28.7 million sq ft of office space lost.. Im pretty shure they wouldn't target the projects.

[bilson]

Interesting indeed. But I don't understand these kind of people. Why don't they just move? If they hate America so bad, why are they still here? Do they think it is better anywhere else? Or do they think they could do better?

[rwh11385]

wahhh wahhhh wahhh.

why are rich rappers and movie stars bitching? they have mansions of their own. shit. for all those bitching about the president - he isn't the only person in power. christ, learn that he is simply a figurehead... oh wait those loudest in complaining dropped out of high school and don't understand checks and balances.

if they really have an issue, save up and move to canada, mexico, holland, or back to africa. the idea of government is to give up some property (taxes) and power to have protection of the rest of your rights. The US still does a good job of helping us. If people don't like it, get the fuck out. But then again slumming around and bitching is so much easier.

p.s. Kanye West is still a dumb bitch

p.s.s. when was the last time ANYONE invaded the US? or the first time? The nation has seemed to have done a good job at preventing invasion.

[ColdAccord]

people need to research the background of the people in this song/video (sans eminem, he is typically void of political messages/activism in his career).

btw immortal technique is far from rich. i dont even think he's signed to a label. he puts everything out himself.

and to the "if you hate america leave" comments. that was the most overplayed phrase post 9/11 to anyone who criticized

dissent is the highest form of patriotism

[gazellebeigem3]

dissent is the highest form of patriotism

That is the foundation of our country. Fuck all the 'love it or leave it' sentiment. The ignorant hicks who believe that are the reason our country is where it is today.

[JPL]

people need to research the background of the people in this song/video (sans eminem, he is typically void of political messages/activism in his career).

what is your point? does he get a one time pass for not being a dumbass in other songs? he's a douche nozzle b/c he said bush bombed the WTC. He quoted farenheit 911. which is in fact complete bullshit. michael moore talks shit about america to other countries to get applause. by my standards i hope someone takes him out for spreading the propaganda that that video criticizes. he also complains about the poor not getting anything which makes me wonder why i pay for half the shit he gets. in america you are not guaranteed the dream. you only have the right to pursue it. go to europe if you want a payed for life. but he'd probably bitch than too.

that said. again i like the video. it would be more impressive to me if the words in the video said something intelligent. it takes audacity to put out an album that says the dumbest shit. but then again most of the people who buy them believe America is a charity and a street walkin whore who anyone can rape if all you say is the man is holdin' you down. Its just the truth nigga. and b/c i said that its the truth and grabbed my cock on the cover of an album millions of people will believe me and "protest" on the street for "the truth nigga"

[rwh11385]

what is your point? does he get a one time pass for not being a dumbass in other songs? he's a douche nozzle b/c he said bush bombed the WTC. He quoted farenheit 911. which is in fact complete bullshit. michael moore talks shit about america to other countries to get applause. by my standards i hope someone takes him out for spreading the propaganda that that video criticizes. he also complains about the poor not getting anything which makes me wonder why i pay for half the shit he gets. in america you are not guaranteed the dream. you only have the right to pursue it. go to europe if you want a payed for life. but he'd probably bitch than too.

Amen. Everyone has a freedom of speech, and press. But this useless dumb bullshit is retarded and although we can't outlaw or censor it, it doesn't help America but rather drags it down.

If people were being productive, working hard, educating themselves and raising their children right instead of trying to prove the towers were exploded in a massive government-lead conspiracy to kill thousands of its own citizens... maybe we would make progress as a nation.

[rwh11385]

Em lives in a $4.5 million mansion with a live-in housekeeper and her family.

http://eminemandhailie.tripod.com/id26.html

Mos Def has been in Talladega Nights, 16 Blocks, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, The Italian Job, and Monster's Ball, so I bet he has made more than the average American.

Based on a little looking, Immortal Technique seems to have been too busy whining about politics to make any money and that's his own damn fault. Controversy surrounding his statements preventing him from getting on a big label.

Two smartest rappers in my opinion - Jay Z and Puff Daddy. They seem pretty happy to be in America. And maybe Sean Combs is onto something - encouraging people to vote instead of complaining about things they didn't care to voice about on election day.

http://www.census.gov/prod/2006pubs/p20-556.pdf

It is one thing to disagree with who is in 'power', voice it, then use your efforts to stand up and vote for another person. But supporting an illogical conspiracy theory and believing a single man is the root of all problems is moronic.

Expecting the nation to be run in favor of the people who don't vote or try hard to succeed is dumb. Go to a country with socialist ideal, not capitalist America. America should help those who help themselves, not those who bitch and expect a handout.

The nation was founded by people who took action, instead of just writing and bitching about their situation. Such they wrote some ideas down but did something more than just talking. Although the president isn't the most popular person, our system of government is here to stay, so they need to learn to deal with it, and maybe vote to evolve it. But that's too much work to get to the polling stations before 6pm.

[equate975]

It is one thing to disagree with who is in 'power', voice it, then use your efforts to stand up and vote for another person. But supporting an illogical conspiracy theory and believing a single man is the root of all problems is moronic.

Expecting the nation to be run in favor of the people who don't vote or try hard to succeed is dumb. Go to a country with socialist ideal, not capitalist America. America should help those who help themselves, not those who bitch and expect a handout.

The nation was founded by people who took action, instead of just writing and bitching about their situation. Such they wrote some ideas down but did something more than just talking. Although the president isn't the most popular person, our system of government is here to stay, so they need to learn to deal with it, and maybe vote to evolve it. But that's too much work to get to the polling stations before 6pm.

x2, everything thinking bush and whatnot is the cause of all of our problems are fucking idiots. I am so sick of shit like this.

[ColdAccord]

what is your point? does he get a one time pass for not being a dumbass in other songs? he's a douche nozzle b/c he said bush bombed the WTC. He quoted farenheit 911. which is in fact complete bullshit. michael moore talks shit about america to other countries to get applause. by my standards i hope someone takes him out for spreading the propaganda that that video criticizes. he also complains about the poor not getting anything which makes me wonder why i pay for half the shit he gets. in america you are not guaranteed the dream. you only have the right to pursue it. go to europe if you want a payed for life. but he'd probably bitch than too.

that said. again i like the video. it would be more impressive to me if the words in the video said something intelligent. it takes audacity to put out an album that says the dumbest shit. but then again most of the people who buy them believe America is a charity and a street walkin whore who anyone can rape if all you say is the man is holdin' you down. Its just the truth nigga. and b/c i said that its the truth and grabbed my cock on the cover of an album millions of people will believe me and "protest" on the street for "the truth nigga"

actually that sample was taken from jadakiss. not mos def or immortal technique.

and if you research mos def or immortal technique, you will find they are not "dumbasses" in their other songs.

you are saying you pay taxes to provide for the poor, but on the other hand you say poor people don't deserve a living wage?

i dont think you will see mos def or immortal technique "grabbing their cock" on any of their albums.

I think some research would show that they are doing more thinking than you give them credit; you seem to be criticizing (in an ill-educated manner) what they say, calling it un-intelligent. but they are looking into events and policies that you apparently haven't.

i think they are commenting from more of a vast perception of the policies and processes the government has taken, rather than whats simply been related to the public through the news, which often simply regurgitates whatever the message the current administration wishes to convey. in regards to the current administration; there have been tons of lies and misleadings.

is immortal technique lying that we have paid osama bin laden incredibly large sums of money? are you saying reagan's policies didn't arm countries which are now our enemies? didn't lead to the spread of columbian drugs "in an attempt to infultrate the system and address other key figures in smuggling"? I don't sit here and agree with everything mos def and immortal technique say just the same as I don't sit here and agree with everything on the news

you have to take an objective perspective and scrutinize information before formulating an opinion. a one sided argument isn't much of an argument at all.

[AdironRider]

Your eyes are open.