Agree or Disagree

[Massive Lee]

Interestingly, at most HPDEs, concentrated drivers go up to 150MPH and still don't crash. That's because drivers are concentrated on what they do, and all cars go in the same direction at basically the same speed.

[kylebes1]

We should have a large, expensive course that is required to get a license.

That would force the government to fund mass public transportation solutions. Which I would prefer to use during the week. I could easily save the money for the proper driving courses and a license.

It should also require a retest every 5 years. and a dr. note that you are physically capable. including vision, reaction time and that you are not going to drop dead on the interstate.

One other one is that 6000 lb missles called Tahoes and Expeditions and H2s should be out lawed.

but all that would reduce our use of oil and reliance on other counties. Truly a conundrum.

BTW. I too live in ATL. GA 400 is a scary bitch!

[JGood]

We should have a large, expensive course that is required to get a license.

That would force the government to fund mass public transportation solutions. Which I would prefer to use during the week. I could easily save the money for the proper driving courses and a license.

It should also require a retest every 5 years. and a dr. note that you are physically capable. including vision, reaction time and that you are not going to drop dead on the interstate.

One other one is that 6000 lb missles called Tahoes and Expeditions and H2s should be out lawed.

but all that would reduce our use of oil and reliance on other counties. Truly a conundrum.

BTW. I too live in ATL. GA 400 is a scary bitch!

Tahoe's and Expeditions are useful. I use my Explorer to haul shit all the time. Sometimes I wish I had more room. I like the fact that I can take it to the mountains without worrying about getting stuck and shit.

It's the boneheads that have a 5 mile highway commute to work and never open the rear hatch or use the 4WD that make them seem like a waste.

[SchnellerVert]

I wouldn't count on that.

+ any number as when I hit that number this year the limit really hasn't changed in anytime. States whe I have lived are to congested and they will not raise limits as they don't do squat.

[Kman]

im not sure i but i think he might have meant excursion, the huge one. expeditions are very useful but should not be used for the 5mile highway commute

[kylebes1]

they are all pointless as a commuter vehicle. which is where the issue comes in.

use it on the weekend

[Kman]

+ any number as when I hit that number this year the limit really hasn't changed in anytime. States whe I have lived are to congested and they will not raise limits as they don't do squat.

limits are not raised because when the roads in your state/city are higher then the government feels is a practical speed for that area of road you lose funding for road repairs and such.

[craig4ie]

One other one is that 6000 lb missles called Tahoes and Expeditions and H2s should be out lawed.

There are SOME people who use these piles for what they are intended for but regardless, fat lazy North Americans won't give them up any time soon. I say increase insurance rates for vehicles (ahem trucks & SUVs) over a certain size and make it mandatory that you pass another driving test (at your expense) specific to large vehicles before you can insure one of these boats.

If they're gonna drive em they might as well learn HOW to drive em.

[JasonC]

Most people use their trucks and suv's for what they where made for. And maybe they can't aford another car to drive around in so they just use what they have. I allways liked my truck's/suv's. But they was the little Dodge Dakota's and S-10's. I never needed anything bigger, i allways found that they did the job for what i needed them to do.

[Jonathan M3]

Its never going to happen. I don't want these idiots I see on the road around me to be able to legally do 100+mph. They can't even drive sanely at 70.

Americans have been bred into this type of highway etiquitte, or lack thereof. Sadly, its become part of our culture.

[JGood]

they are all pointless as a commuter vehicle. which is where the issue comes in.

use it on the weekend

I carpooled for 4 years. Try to fit 2 average sized men in business attire in the back of an e30. Not everyone has money for a large commuter car AND a truck to do hauling and stuff.

There's nothing wrong with SUV's. There's just some people that don't have daily activities that require them and wouldn't understand the usefulness.

[joshh]

Its never going to happen. I don't want these idiots I see on the road around me to be able to legally do 100+mph. They can't even drive sanely at 70.

Americans have been bred into this type of highway etiquitte, or lack thereof. Sadly, its become part of our culture.

I agree. The problem isn't the speed limit, it's the type of people on the road.

We should have much more strict laws on getting a license. Kids don't even need ANY driving lessons at all. That's insane. And people wonder why kids are in so many accidents.
I've already had my 10 year old daughter driving my Integra in large parking lots and it's a stick. I don't want to worry about her driving skills.

In America we need speed limits. If we actually made people responsible for their actions and make getting a license something people respect then I would say to remove the speed limit.

[CleanAzzE30z]

I think by the time my generation is 40 limits will have increased significantly.

Not if the gestapo err.....Mothers Against Drunk Driving have anything to do with it. They are one lobby that doesnt have opposition for fear of being pro-drunk driving. All reason escapes these people. They want to lower the BAC yet again to .06. Makes no sense. That will be a fraction of a beer? That BAC doesnt stop the real problem drunks from driving drunk and only serves to criminalize a whole gammet of people who are well within their faculties to drive. Oh and it also makes a fucking load of money to all the programs and municipalities.


Mariano

[CleanAzzE30z]

Its never going to happen. I don't want these idiots I see on the road around me to be able to legally do 100+mph. They can't even drive sanely at 70.

Americans have been bred into this type of highway etiquitte, or lack thereof. Sadly, its become part of our culture.

True. ANYONE who has driven in Europe knows full well that there is no way Americans could handle this. Its very sad. In Germany, getting your license is like taking the fucking bar exam, THATS how you regulate idiots. A true class to learn how to drive. Not 6 hours behind the wheel and 60 dollars.


Mariano

[Jscotty]

My ex lived in Jamacia for a number of years and she said that in order to pass the driving test there, the testing offical will put you in a stickshift car facing upward on a steep hill and will put a matchbox behind the wheel. If you roll over the matchbox while attempting to go up the hill, you automatically fail.

In maryland and DC (and I think virginia too) you don't even need to go to driving school in order to get a license. I think that if you go to school, your insurance is cheaper and you are required to get driver education if you want to drive at age 16.

But even most of the driving schools in my area are pitiful. The classes are usually taught by the local high school basketball coach and they give you the answers to the test. So you copy everything straight out of the book, watch a movie and then go home. Then as far as the on-the-road teaching, that was really terrible. They required 6 hours of behind the wheel training in 2-hour segments which meant 4 people get in the car with the instructor, we go to 7-11 and get slurpees and then we all go home 20 minutes later.. and all 4 of us get credit for a 2 hour lesson. The only fundamental thing that we did was take turns doing the driving test course and then we were done.

And the road test is really not that hard. You just drive into the course, do a 3 point turn, parallel park, and then you get your license. I have known many people fail as a result of a technicality- like forgetting to buckle up, or running a stop sign (several on the course at odd places) but for the most part, if you have breath in your body, its relatively easy to pass.