If it aint Boeing, I aint going

[Ryan Stewart]

But the A380 is garbage I'm sorry. They were not able to deliver for many flaws... they keep post-poning the delivery by 6 months many times, which proves that they need to keep fixing many things before the plane will ever be ready.

Which wont matter, as they are still 100 orders short of making any sort of profit on the plane. The EU will have to bail the company out (again) while bitching that Boeing got an unfair advantage from US military technology.

[Jscotty]

I'm very proud of Embraer as they are Brasilian and their planes are great products. They have been doing really well since getting into the 70 to 130 passenger market, becoming a potential rival even to Boeing and Airbus.

One thing that my buddy and I were discussing about the Embraer is that with the way the gas prices are going up, these smaller planes are probably more efficient. Smaller planes are probably better on gas and the probability of flying a plane that is half full is reduced.

[Ryan Stewart]

That is more of what Boeing is betting on. That and the fact that people wouldnt want to have to fly into Berlin or Paris to get to Stuttgart.

[Erick]

Word. But there are still places in the world that such a scenario is not the case. Like Japan for instance. There's really less than a handful of places you can fly a plane, and none of those airports are big enough to accommodate countless planes.... so bigger planes that carry twice the load while spreading its wingspan by a few feet makes it more worth it for double deckers.

It's a rare scenario, but its there.

Not arguing with anyone... but throwing that out there as well... which is why there is still some demand even for commercial double deckers.

[h0lmes]

Word. But there are still places in the world that such a scenario is not the case. Like Japan for instance. There's really less than a handful of places you can fly a plane, and none of those airports are big enough to accommodate countless planes.... so bigger planes that carry twice the load while spreading its wingspan by a few feet makes it more worth it for double deckers.

It's a rare scenario, but its there.

Not arguing with anyone... but throwing that out there as well... which is why there is still some demand even for commercial double deckers.

That is where the new 747-8 comes in. A tried and true design with a lot of the technologies that are going into the 787, and it didn't take hundreds of millions of dollars in government subsidies to develop.

[E30 Memorial]

Hitler's 787 Delayed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF_P77VEPKA

[Farbin Kaiber]

bump from the past. At least you found a thread via the search feature to post in.