So i just proposed to my girlfriend of 2.5 years.....

[dinanm3atl]

crazy

I dated my fiancee since 8th grade :) Now I am 23 and we get married next June hehe

[mudflaps]

OT

womens bathrooms are worse to clean then mens. and for women who say men pee on the seats.....

wow, you are sorely mistaken.

[Hon2BMW]

Marriage is what ends healthy relationships. It artificially puts limits on you and your partner. It's another excuse to scare people into keeping thier dick or virginia in their pants.

It limits growth in a relationship by giving false guidlines such as: "that's not how your supposed to treat your wife!" "So when are you kids going to give us some grandchildren?" "I can't be myself around my freinds anymore because I'm a married man and have to start acting in a responsible manner." "What is my husband and his parents going to think if I act this way when I'm out with my freinds?"

FUCK THAT BULLSHIT.

If you don't trust you partner enough to be in a relationship without a piece of paper then GTFO.

Marriage exists today for the same reason 60% of people still go to church on sundays when they would rather not be there. Its a tradition, if tradition means alot to you, you do it. If it means alot to you and your family, you do it, if it means alot to your significant other, and not you, IMO you shouldn't do it.

Marriage only works for people who truely belive in it. I have a VERY hard time beleiving there are still a large number of people who do.

Some of the longest lasting relationships I've seen have been between two people who never get married, or do so only after being together for a VERY long time and they only decide to do it because its just another thing they haven't done.

For example, my Dad's friend from South Africa Fancois, and his Wife, had been together for some 20+ years before they actually got married, they are both in their 50's and just got married last year.

I really hate using celebrities as examples but I think Kurt Russel and Goldie Hawn are a pretty good combination of a family that works without the extra baggage of marriage.

I've known plenty of people who, even though they have a tough time admitting it, are perfectly happy to simply be engaged. They appreciate the gesture of their partner to make a commitment, but later both decide that maybe they don't actually need a legal document to express their comittment.

Now just think how much easier it would have been for them if our society had some other socially acceptable way of showing commitment without legal recourse.

Commitment ceremonys, something the gays have been doing for years, are alot like marriages, except without all the legal crap, its a way for people to show their commitment to one another without prenups, licenses or the promise of legal sacrifice should they or their partner decide a few years down the road that maybe things are not what they used to be.

Isn't that what the basis of marraige was in the first place? to show your commitment to one another?

Society and its hangups and inseccurities have ruined the term marriage plain and simple.

[Jscotty]

Isn't that what the basis of marraige was in the first place? to show your commitment to one another?

No, actually marriage is biblical. Commitment is a big part of it but its more of a spiritual union between a man and a woman to become "one" in the sense of someone being able to better serve their purpose in life.

[Funkmasta]

No, actually marriage is biblical.

and moses parted the sea. right?

[Turf1600]

You found yourself in High School? What an incredibly naive thing to say.

kr

Yeah since you know me so well. Making assumptions is naive.

[delatlanta1281]

Dude
Give me her number, I will set her straight....;)
Don't worry bout it man. Shit happens. You are young, there will be even more messed up stuff in your future.
Oh and btw, the only girls worth dating don't care what you drive, as long as it runs and they don't have to suffer alongside of you. The girls that do give a shit won't be around long enough to bother with. Trust me.

[Hon2BMW]

No, actually marriage is biblical. Commitment is a big part of it but its more of a spiritual union between a man and a woman to become "one" in the sense of someone being able to better serve their purpose in life.

Okay, considering the basic idea of what we today call marriage existed before the Bible was written or even the supposed coming of Jesus, thats something of a quandry.

Believe it or not, marraiges also occur between people who do not believe in god, religion, or spirituality.

Some people strongly associate their religion with marraige, and rightly so as it is often a large part of many peoples religious beliefs, but the idea of marraige in our society is to large and encompassing to be defined by the constraints of religion, especially that of christianity, since it is no longer the most populus religion around the globe.

[B2ThaZiZza]

Dude bro it will happen at the right time dont force it. I made the decision to postpone me and my girfriends wedding until after we both graduate medical school and are financially sound to do this kind of step. This kind of decision is not easy and she may not be the one, but both of you really need to be on that kind of connection before you decide, it should be a 50/50 decision. Just let things flow and give her space but keep on showing her why you want to marry her and eventually she will see it, and it will will drive her nuts until you finally ask her again and at that point then she will say yes. Best of luck to both of you guys...

[atomic]

Just ignore her. Dont always be there when she calls you. Even if your sitting on your ass playing xbox360 and nothing else to do. If she thinks you are moving on with you life she will come around and either realize it time to move on as well or chase after you more..... Act as if you could give a shit either way but be nice about it when you are speaking with her.

[Garageaholic]

Yeah since you know me so well. Making assumptions is naive.

The bottom line, psloan, is that you have no idea what life will throw at you. At least give me that....Ok you think you found yourself in HS. So did i until i went to college, then after college i thought i found myself. Now i'm 24 and still wondering who the fuck i am. I have no idea what the future will bring but i do know that it will be filled with experiences that will further shape me into who i will end up becoming. That is when I find myself.

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People are inherently resistant to change, that's why people stay in the relationships they're currently comfortable in rather than go out there and possibly find someone better, possibly not. Many people are too comfortable and complacent with what they have (even if they aren't even thrilled with the person!) and would rather not find what else is out there.... until they're 40, realize that their "young adult" lives have flown by them and have the mid life crisis where they start hitting the bars pretending they are in their 20's. It's sad and i've seen it before.

Unless of course you're fat and ugly and truly think that this girl is the best you're ever going to get. then fine, best of luck to you.

[86espowa]

Frank, would you stop changing your god damn username?? ;-)

[Garageaholic]

Hahaha. lol this is the second and final username. oh i gotta change my sig. too lol

[cferb]

A friend of mine had her ex boyfriend propose to here. thing was, she broke up with him about 6 months before, she was single for a while, I was almost to the point of dating her, until some fuck I work with beat me to it, but that's another story, then shortly after, the ex proposed to her...at work...she said no, obviously

[Turf1600]

The bottom line, psloan, is that you have no idea what life will throw at you. At least give me that....Ok you think you found yourself in HS. So did i until i went to college, then after college i thought i found myself. Now i'm 24 and still wondering who the fuck i am. I have no idea what the future will bring but i do know that it will be filled with experiences that will further shape me into who i will end up becoming. That is when I find myself.

This was kind of my point - people always think their lives are the same as everyone elses. If I was you - your theory may be correct. It's not my problem that you guys can't figure shit out - and just because you cant doesn't mean no one else can. Ego centric bastards. :)