Engrish can be language now?

[Turf1600]

In texas it's straight up inconvenient.

[brandondan1]

True, I went to a mcdonalds one time where the menu was in Spanish... pretty gay. Good thing I know everything they have anyway, and the cashier knew some English.

[JGood]

Well of course you're going to ask a doctor for medical help, just like you would ask the biker for help if your bike broke down. That's common sense, just like you don't goto mcdonalds when you want an oil change.

However, what you said before about an arab and a black man is dealing strictly with race, not 'appearance/profession,' and that's when it gets controversial.

I agree with psloan that stereotyping cripples people. If you were on the other side of the fence and were stereotyped in a negative way daily, I guarantee that you wouldn't say "stereotyping is a necessity," and if you did, you would be a complete idiot to want the world to have animosity towards you when you've done nothing wrong.

Touché

[NC325iC]

i would vote for it

[uofom3]

Well of course you're going to ask a doctor for medical help, just like you would ask the biker for help if your bike broke down. That's common sense, just like you don't goto mcdonalds when you want an oil change.

However, what you said before about an arab and a black man is dealing strictly with race, not 'appearance/profession,' and that's when it gets controversial.

I agree with psloan that stereotyping cripples people. If you were on the other side of the fence and were stereotyped in a negative way daily, I guarantee that you wouldn't say "stereotyping is a necessity," and if you did, you would be a complete idiot to want the world to have animosity towards you when you've done nothing wrong.

But back on topic, I do sometimes get annoyed when I have to go out of my way to find things in English, and think that we should make sure there's a good stock of english documents before we print in other languages.

About the electronics manuals.. I don't see your point. These companies clearly sell products all over the world. Should the parent companies only produce manuals in Japanese and make us translate? Should they produce manuals in engrish only and sell them in Bolivia? Heres an idea, lets compile all the major languages into a manual to make things easy. It only takes 5 seconds to find the english instructions.. What's wrong with listing countries in alphabetical order instead of having the USA first? Even our beloved BMW website makes us choose our country, but I guess that's ok because your bias for bmw trumps your national pride? I don't know, a lot of this complaining seems like laziness/elitism, rather than real inconvenience.

I don't have a huge problem with this post, but I do have a few pieces to add to this.

1) We are all stereotyped. Don't make it out that simply "all black men are criminals" and "all arab men are terrorists". People have stereotypes about white people, indians, mexicans, etc.

2) In every stereotype, there is some truth. There is also the exception to the rule (just like with everything else). It's just like how in every joke that is make about someone/something there is an element of truth to it (and that's usually what makes it funny).

3) In regards to the issues brought up regarding black/arab men... I think a person has to look at all of the seperate issues surrounding the situation. For instance, you can't say that black men are stereotyped as thugs, etc. and then have BLACK leaders encouraging their own kind to "change their ways" - go to school, stop being gang affiliated, etc. I mean how many white/arab/native american men do you see involved in violent street gangs? A very small percentage of the overall gang scene when compared to black/mexican/asian people. "Black" leaders are also calling for social reform, stable families, changing the way people dress, and the general way the community is recieved. Why? Because they know that there is some truth to the "stereotypes" that have been created. If more people in the communities in question would listen to these leaders, they would be better off and the country would be better off as well (which is what we all want).

[Turf1600]

I don't have a huge problem with this post, but I do have a few pieces to add to this.

1) We are all stereotyped. Don't make it out that simply "all black men are criminals" and "all arab men are terrorists". People have stereotypes about white people, indians, mexicans, etc.

2) In every stereotype, there is some truth. There is also the exception to the rule (just like with everything else). It's just like how in every joke that is make about someone/something there is an element of truth to it (and that's usually what makes it funny).

3) In regards to the issues brought up regarding black/arab men... I think a person has to look at all of the seperate issues surrounding the situation. For instance, you can't say that black men are stereotyped as thugs, etc. and then have BLACK leaders encouraging their own kind to "change their ways" - go to school, stop being gang affiliated, etc. I mean how many white/arab/native american men do you see involved in violent street gangs? A very small percentage of the overall gang scene when compared to black/mexican/asian people. "Black" leaders are also calling for social reform, stable families, changing the way people dress, and the general way the community is recieved. Why? Because they know that there is some truth to the "stereotypes" that have been created. If more people in the communities in question would listen to these leaders, they would be better off and the country would be better off as well (which is what we all want).

Conformity FTMFW.