gay marriage

[*R*]

i have a friend that was raised by 2 moms and she turned out fine

[JGood]

i have a friend that was raised by 2 moms and she turned out fine

Are the moms hot?

[Farbin Kaiber]

Ahh... my "Cabin Fever" has incapicatated me and removed all ability to vote on such things.

[LINUS]

It's a known deal that I believe in God & call myself Christian, even thought I don't act like a poster child all the time. That said, I don't think anyone should use their personal religious belief as ammo for why someone shouldn't do a particular action.

All the "Christians" who want to get all Nazi about someone elses desires - sorry, they aren't the Christians we consider your average believer. We all have our red-headed stepchildren, and the zealots are normally those.

If you hear the message most evangelists/pastors preach, then you hear that God is all about love & acceptance, not hate & segregation. They are even near allowing open practicing gays as clergy in the Methodist churches.

That said - I vote we let all the gays call their relationship whatever they like. I do expect reciprocation though - don't tread an my right to personal religious belief, nor should you have business starting bills to ban my guns. I'll stick up for your rights, but you better be willing to do the same for me. I'm all for smaller government, let the people do whatever makes them happy as long as it doesn't impede on someone else.

I liked how they handled it out at one refinery job I had - if you had a gay "partner" you got onto your benefits, they would get health care since that was the only reason people cared, but if you split up they were giving that person a share of your 401K just like a hetero marriage. Needless to say the few lesbos who worked there didn't have any official partner.

[dinanm3atl]

Just remember...

Eventually someone IS going to want to be in a civil union with his dog so he can get a tax break.

[SpunkyE30nOk]

Just remember...

Eventually someone IS going to want to be in a civil union with his dog so he can get a tax break.

and here we go saying if gay people can marry ppl w start marrying animals.. wtf is wrong w ppl. Gay...Beastiality..two completely different scenarios. It seems when someone doesn't have a valid reason to not allow gay marriage (religion is not a valid reason). they say some B.S like that.

[dinanm3atl]

Why is it BS?

First we started paying atheletes barely anything... Now Millions. First people built normal sized houses, now everyone wants to build a mansion.

Everything eventually gets pushed to the limit. People are suing McDonald's for hot coffee and suing apple for lowering prices. You don't think someone will do this? Some sack of crap that could never get a gay or straight partner thus no chance for tax break?

Are you joking?

And why is religion not a valid reason? Because in your opinion it is wrong?

[PУCCKAЯ_e30ka]

I can give you a fft... how did people evolve? male+female fucking over time! (very simplistic terms) male+male.. female+female... doesn't work! one has a hole, they other has something to stick into that hole! it's like a jigsaw puzzle that is being "cut" and "fitted" other way around... but no one can tell what the fuck was on that picture ;)

[AppState325]

Like i said. always directed back to christianity.

You are such a tool. If you are so against Christianity, then why all the dumbass side shots to try to get them riled up? get a life douchebag

[SpunkyE30nOk]

Why is it BS?

First we started paying atheletes barely anything... Now Millions. First people built normal sized houses, now everyone wants to build a mansion.

Everything eventually gets pushed to the limit. People are suing McDonald's for hot coffee and suing apple for lowering prices. You don't think someone will do this? Some sack of crap that could never get a gay or straight partner thus no chance for tax break?

Are you joking?

And why is religion not a valid reason? Because in your opinion it is wrong?

Religion isn't a valid reason b/c everyone isn't from the same religion. typically if you use religion to validate your reason, I think it means you have no scientific evidence to support your claim, so people say its b/c god deemed it so. If everyone was of 1 religion then sure it could possibly be used as a reason but there are tons of religions many w their own hypcrotical beliefs.

[Turf1600]

I can give you a fft... how did people evolve? male+female fucking over time! (very simplistic terms) male+male.. female+female... doesn't work! one has a hole, they other has something to stick into that hole! it's like a jigsaw puzzle that is being "cut" and "fitted" other way around... but no one can tell what the fuck was on that picture ;)

People evolve due to natural selection. Theoretically, if you let gays nail eachother they will die off slowly. Not like natural selection exists anymore. Every asshole with diabetes or any other disability would be dead.

[Turf1600]

Why is it BS?

First we started paying atheletes barely anything... Now Millions. First people built normal sized houses, now everyone wants to build a mansion.

Everything eventually gets pushed to the limit. People are suing McDonald's for hot coffee and suing apple for lowering prices. You don't think someone will do this? Some sack of crap that could never get a gay or straight partner thus no chance for tax break?

Are you joking?

And why is religion not a valid reason? Because in your opinion it is wrong?

The idea that would put homosexuality and beastiality in the same category is gross. If you are going to take things to extreme measures, you may as well do it with everything. It's not like gay marriage is going to open the window for all these other things anyways. They will probably happen anyways - it's not like this is the beginning of natural progression. Religion is not a valid reason because religious arguments are a cheap cop out. When you don't know the answer - turn to religion! Have a family member die and cant cope? Pretend they are playing golf all day with fucking mother theresa instead of rotting in the ground. perplexed with the unexplainable origins of the universe? Create an unexplainable god to solve your problems! It's easy!

[Fidhle007]

Main Entry:
mar·riage
Pronunciation:
\ˈmer-ij, ˈma-rij\ Function:
noun Etymology:
Middle English mariage, from Anglo-French, from marier to marryDate:
14th century
1 a (1): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2): the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage> b: the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock c: the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage2: an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities3: an intimate or close union <the marriage of painting and poetry — J. T. Shawcross>

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[Jand3rson]

I'm not going to get into a big debate or anything here, so I'll just throw my hat in the ring with what I always respond to this issue with.

If you like someone enough that you want to be legally and financially bound to them for life, go for it. I could give a shit less who you marry.

What I've never been able to figure out is why they want it so bad. My wife and I were together for 6 years before we got married, 5 of those were spent living together. When we got married, NOTHING changed except our tax status and her last name. Marriage means nothing in today's American society, so I don't see why everyone is so up in arms over it being a "sacred" institution.

[browntown]

let them have a civil union with equal benefits. marriage is for a man and woman and homos getting married is just one more example of the mockery that we have turned marriage into. it means next to nothing and people give up and divorce at the drop of a hat.
i have nothing against gays and think if they want to take it in the butthole thats fine. give them equal tax credit and let them pound each others ass.

To this argument I say ALL marriages should be civil unions. The govt shouldn't make a marriage, they should just be in charge of the contract. If you want to be married in the traditional sense under your god with flowers and false promises, go for it. But the legal contract should just be a civil union whether it's a man-woman situation or a man-man / woman-woman deal. Take the govt out of the belief situation.

SOOO if you have a hangup about fudgepackers getting "married," then don't go to the church that allows that marriage. Marriage means different things to different people. Don't assume marriage SHOULD be sacred, just because it is to you. Your belief system is your own, why do you care what others' are?

Marriage is just a word, what makes a marriage is the commitment between two adults.

None of this will ever happen though since our country will never get over it's hangup with Jesus. This is why I don't visit off topic. I get all worked up.