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  • Firestorm
    Mod Crazy
    • Jul 2004
    • 795

    #16
    Originally posted by Ray Smoodiver
    I say we ship the hot virginal venezuelan bitches to New Zealand for "training"
    All the sheep have fled into the ocean?


    :)

    Lsx/t56 Swap progress |----------| .0000000005% - Well below poverty line.
    Getting purists panties in a knot since 2007. ;)
    E30 count = 6! :shock:

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    • Massive Lee
      R3V OG
      • Sep 2006
      • 6785

      #17
      Hugo Boss was democratically elected, and went out democratically too. He refused that countries, such as the USA, stole the Venezuelians resources while kids were dying from hunger. What's wrong with that? Obviously, the rich Venezuelians are not okay with it as they can't make as much money, but my heart usually goes for poorer peoples anyway.

      There is a strong political opposition, openly financed and supported by the US (just as the US supported Augusto Pinochet in Chile in the 70s) but I know that Chavez will be back.
      Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.

      massivebrakes.com

      http://www.facebook.com/pages/Massiv...78417442267056





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      • franco90
        No R3VLimiter
        • Nov 2006
        • 3185

        #18
        DO you really believe chavez be back?.

        I've always been proud of being a Marine.
        I won't hesitate to defend the Corps
        "Supersquad"

        ‎"Prostitutes are a sub-category of Amusement Parks"-

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        • uofom3
          R3V Elite
          • Jan 2004
          • 5392

          #19
          Originally posted by Jon325i
          Perhaps to you it isn't, but then again I've noticed there's not much about you that is.
          o... snap?
          PNW Crew
          90 m3
          06 m5

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          • elguapo84
            E30 Modder
            • Oct 2006
            • 965

            #20
            Originally posted by Massive Lee
            Hugo Boss was democratically elected, and went out democratically too. He refused that countries, such as the USA, stole the Venezuelians resources while kids were dying from hunger. What's wrong with that? Obviously, the rich Venezuelians are not okay with it as they can't make as much money, but my heart usually goes for poorer peoples anyway.

            There is a strong political opposition, openly financed and supported by the US (just as the US supported Augusto Pinochet in Chile in the 70s) but I know that Chavez will be back.
            Although there is truth in what you said, there are fundamental flaws in his political tactics and social policies. For a comprehensive run-down, check out this wikipedia write up:

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            An unlucky E30 I came across in Rotterdam, Holland

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            • Massive Lee
              R3V OG
              • Sep 2006
              • 6785

              #21
              Anyone can sign-up to Wikepedia and rewrite history with a strong bias. I am sure there are other more reliable sources. Chavez may not have pleased everyone, but at least he was trying to help the bigger majority of Venezuelians. It may have hurt others, butperhaps it is one step toward better life for everyone, and not only the rich.

              US never enjoyed that he was uniting South American countries into a non-US complying format. Exchanging a local resource (oil) against doctors and much needed drugs. Helping set-up a South American commercial treaty, away from the US-led one which only benefited the US (Canada and South America did not really had benefits despite the promises).

              Is Chavez a hero? No. Is he perfect? Certainly no. But at least he tried to bring back dignity to his people. How fewer kids die, or how fewer people are hungry is how I judge the advancements. But hey. It's only my opinon.
              Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.

              massivebrakes.com

              http://www.facebook.com/pages/Massiv...78417442267056





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              • Ryan Stewart
                I Love Miatas
                • Oct 2003
                • 8978

                #22
                Originally posted by Massive Lee
                Anyone can sign-up to Wikepedia and rewrite history with a strong bias. I am sure there are other more reliable sources. Chavez may not have pleased everyone, but at least he was trying to help the bigger majority of Venezuelians. It may have hurt others, butperhaps it is one step toward better life for everyone, and not only the rich.

                US never enjoyed that he was uniting South American countries into a non-US complying format. Exchanging a local resource (oil) against doctors and much needed drugs. Helping set-up a South American commercial treaty, away from the US-led one which only benefited the US (Canada and South America did not really had benefits despite the promises).

                Is Chavez a hero? No. Is he perfect? Certainly no. But at least he tried to bring back dignity to his people. How fewer kids die, or how fewer people are hungry is how I judge the advancements. But hey. It's only my opinon.
                the problem was his plan was a spectacular failure. The only reason socialism can survive in his country is because of the vast oil wealth, which has decreased since nationalization (they are horribly inefficient compared to the private companies that ran it). He tried to get everyone else to switch and it led to govts being broke.

                And the doctor trade plan is going REALLY well, doctors are fleeing the country. Chavez is great for them because it gives them a chance to flee Cuba.
                Im now E30less.
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                • elguapo84
                  E30 Modder
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 965

                  #23
                  Well...it wasn't an objective article so much as a criticism, and criticism is always susceptible to bias. Nonetheless it brings up some very good points.

                  I do believe Chavez had good intentions when he initially came into power, and that his vision of a united Latin America and a more egalitarian society with minimal economic disparity is an ideal one. However, as with other Trotskyist goverments, that ideal is almost impossible to attain. Regardless of what his intentions were, he squandered Venezuela's most valuable resources. For a third-world leader, I'd say he's a whole lot better than some, but still Venezuela deserves better. I'm glad less children are hungry, but there are better ways to solve poverty and hunger, and hopefully the next leader will rise to the challenge.

                  Just my opinion...not saying you are wrong or anything of the sort.

                  Originally posted by Massive Lee
                  Anyone can sign-up to Wikepedia and rewrite history with a strong bias. I am sure there are other more reliable sources. Chavez may not have pleased everyone, but at least he was trying to help the bigger majority of Venezuelians. It may have hurt others, butperhaps it is one step toward better life for everyone, and not only the rich.

                  US never enjoyed that he was uniting South American countries into a non-US complying format. Exchanging a local resource (oil) against doctors and much needed drugs. Helping set-up a South American commercial treaty, away from the US-led one which only benefited the US (Canada and South America did not really had benefits despite the promises).

                  Is Chavez a hero? No. Is he perfect? Certainly no. But at least he tried to bring back dignity to his people. How fewer kids die, or how fewer people are hungry is how I judge the advancements. But hey. It's only my opinon.
                  sigpic
                  An unlucky E30 I came across in Rotterdam, Holland

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                  • mtechnik
                    R3V OG
                    • May 2006
                    • 6156

                    #24
                    Originally posted by etxxz
                    I'm very fucking happy!!! MIERDA!!!!
                    I can sure tell ! :D



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