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  • mrsleeve
    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
    • Mar 2005
    • 16385

    #91
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    read it all over again reading comprehension OWNS you.

    You dont get it, the wheel speed has no bearing on air speed. lets try this.

    Why do you think air craft carries of old alway turned into the wind to launch air craft. the wind is say 20knots the carrier is running 15 knots thats 35 knots of air speed over the wings an none on th wheels. If the plane need 85 knots of air speed over the wings to take off the wheels will only have 50 knots of ground speed at lift off see 20+15+50=85.
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    • Turf1600
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2006
      • 9815

      #92
      Are people really still debating? You were stupid before - you're even more stupid now.
      "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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      • sumyungguy
        E30 Fanatic
        • Feb 2007
        • 1313

        #93
        Originally posted by payney8
        does anyone here understand the physics behind a planes flight? Look it up on google and u will realise that until the plane is actually travelling a pretty fast speed the effect doesnt create enough lift for it to fly. So when its sitting still on a treadmill how fast is the air passing over the wings??
        It didnt take off in place, it went the same distance before it took off as it did with out the "treadmill". Google how a plane propeller works...

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        • Turf1600
          R3V OG
          • Nov 2006
          • 9815

          #94
          Originally posted by payney8
          does anyone here understand the physics behind a planes flight? Look it up on google and u will realise that until the plane is actually travelling a pretty fast speed the effect doesnt create enough lift for it to fly. So when its sitting still on a treadmill how fast is the air passing over the wings??
          ban
          "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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          • sumyungguy
            E30 Fanatic
            • Feb 2007
            • 1313

            #95
            lol

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            • Coco Savage
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Sep 2007
              • 1039

              #96
              Originally posted by payney8
              does anyone here understand the physics behind a planes flight? Look it up on google and u will realise that until the plane is actually travelling a pretty fast speed the effect doesnt create enough lift for it to fly. So when its sitting still on a treadmill how fast is the air passing over the wings??

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              • jflip2002
                R3V Elite
                • Sep 2006
                • 4377

                #97
                Originally posted by sumyungguy
                It didnt take off in place, it went the same distance before it took off as it did with out the "treadmill". Google how a plane propeller works...
                Thats what threw me off. I thought the debate was will it take off staying in place or not. Anyone knows it would run down the conveyor built like normal, assuming the wheels spun freely and as fast as the conveyor belt. I thought idiots here were saying it would stay in place AND take off lol.
                Originally posted by blunt
                i would jerk larry king off while tonging jflips ass if h0lmes would blow his head off

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                • Justin B
                  Sikky Nar Nar
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 4273

                  #98
                  Umm, no :P

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                  • Justin B
                    Sikky Nar Nar
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 4273

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Turf1600
                    Are people really still debating? You were stupid before - you're even more stupid now.
                    LMFAO!!

                    QFT QFT QFTTT

                    :crazy:

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                    • BENdashdash
                      Tom is not my friend
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 2506

                      #100
                      here is the crux of this issue. in the midst of debate people have forgot what was asked. i forgot what was asked. but thats besides the point; it really depends who is asking. can we come to a mutual agreement?

                      if the treadmill is to match the ground takeoff speed required, the plane will take off as demonstrated on tv. however,

                      if the treadmill is to match the wheel speed, there will be no ground speed, air speed, or flying.

                      agreed?

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                      • Digitalwave
                        is a poseur
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 6277

                        #101
                        The wheel speed has nothing to do with a plane taking off.

                        RISING EDGE

                        Let's drive fast and have fun.

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                        • Ral
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 1486

                          #102
                          Originally posted by BENdashdash
                          here is the crux of this issue. in the midst of debate people have forgot what was asked. i forgot what was asked. but thats besides the point; it really depends who is asking. can we come to a mutual agreement?

                          if the treadmill is to match the ground takeoff speed required, the plane will take off as demonstrated on tv. however,

                          if the treadmill is to match the wheel speed, there will be no ground speed, air speed, or flying.

                          agreed?


                          sweet mother of pete, you're a retard. wheels on an aircraft have nothing to do with its flight characteristics. A wheel's only purpose for existing on an airplane is to support the aircraft until it goes fast enough be supported by the wing, and to minimize friction between the aircraft and the ground until the aircraft leaves the ground.

                          THE ONLY EFFECT A TREADMILL WILL HAVE ON TAKEOFF ROLL IS BY INCREASING OR DECREASING THE AMOUNT OF ROLLING FRICTION THE PROPULSION SYSTEM MUST OVERCOME TO ACHIEVE V_lo (liftoff velocity).

                          go back to high school and don't sleep through physics, or get stoned in the bathroom.
                          Last edited by Ral; 02-07-2008, 06:24 AM.
                          sigpic89 M3

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                          • Turf1600
                            R3V OG
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 9815

                            #103
                            Originally posted by BENdashdash
                            here is the crux of this issue. in the midst of debate people have forgot what was asked. i forgot what was asked. but thats besides the point; it really depends who is asking. can we come to a mutual agreement?

                            if the treadmill is to match the ground takeoff speed required, the plane will take off as demonstrated on tv. however,

                            if the treadmill is to match the wheel speed, there will be no ground speed, air speed, or flying.

                            agreed?
                            ban
                            "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                            • Turf1600
                              R3V OG
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 9815

                              #104
                              Will a plane still fly if it is flying over a treadmill that is going the same speed in the opposite direction? No wheels involved?

                              If you answer yes - but you don't think the plane will take off - you need to leave the country today.
                              "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                              • James Crivellone
                                Head Janitor
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 6298

                                #105
                                Originally posted by Turf1600
                                ban
                                QFT, dammit Ben!

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