Sold a lady a car, now husband is trying to get money back. Suggestions?

[Vedubin01]

Was the guy who purchised the car with cash a fat russion guy? If so I have about 30+ worth of jail time for him to serve on tax evasion.

And who do you work for?

[Erik j]

No one, I just know the guy and he has fucked over so many people by selling cars with out titles, I would just like to see him get fucked over too.

[E30 Wagen]

How old are you? If you're a young guy, he probably thinks you're just some immature kid that he can scare into refunding his money. Don't let him push you around. This guy sounds like a major prick.

[z31maniac]

Holmes, I think you may be mistaken. IIRC only one party has to be aware of the fact that a conversation is being recorded. In other words, a third-party can not record a conversation and then use it as evidence in court unless that third party has a court's permission to do so (for example, a police wiretap).

Thank you for pointing that out so the rest of us didn't have to.

Real life > internets

[Jesse30]

haha sorry to hear about it man, i went through the same thing when i sold my e30. your covered with the bill of sale, dont sweat it.

sorry to hear that your gettin hassled with it.

[e30Matt]

The two magical screw-or-be-screwed words in used car sales.

"As-is."

[JGood]

bang his wife

[Scotaku]

Get that title and have your release of interest notarized. Copy both sides for your records and mail the new owner the original via registered mail. He will have to sign to receive it and you get a receipt back as proof.

Next you need to get the tags back off the car. You need to turn them back in before/as you cancel any insurance coverage on the car. If the new owner refuses to release them to you, call your sheriff and ask for an escort. Hopefully you either kept the tags at the sale or otherwise have them in your possession. Once the tags are returned to your state, cancel any insurance on the car.

As has been said, you sold and they bought the car "as is" and you have that fact, signed, in writing. You need to finish the process as soon and as cleanly as possible. Do not respond to any of his threats and just hold your ground. If he decides he wants to sue, let him... you're in the right and he can pay for your lawyer and time spent defending yourself when you win.

[aaronmjr]

Sorry to hear about your troubles Aaron. Sounds like you will be just fine with the contract that you drew up. I cant remember the details, but Minnesota does have the ability to force titles. I had to do it a few years ago on a vehicle...

Good luck!

SuperDuper?? haha. Thanks dude! I'm going to try my best to make it over in the spring! I wanna see your project.

Was the guy who purchised the car with cash a fat russion guy? If so I have about 30+ worth of jail time for him to serve on tax evasion.

nope! it was a younger (29) guy and his wife. the wife was the purchaser though.

How old are you? If you're a young guy, he probably thinks you're just some immature kid that he can scare into refunding his money. Don't let him push you around. This guy sounds like a major prick.

I am 25 so not that young. I have been nothing but professional, and both times I met up with them I had business clothes on from work so I don't think I gave that impression. He is definitely a prick. Very threatening.

he said:

"You don't fuck with people you don't know, and you don't know me. You're gonna get it, one way or another."

i said:

"do you mean I'm gonna get it in court? because if you mean anything else than I'm sorry but I'm going to have to call the police"

he said:

"no, but you think you can just walk away from this? you think you can just fuck me and walk away than you got another thing comin. You're gonna pay man. You're not just fuckin with me your fuckin with my family" etc... etc.




So well see how he is today. Today I'm explaining that I can't do anything for him. If the tone is anything like yesterday I'm calling the police. Thanks for everyone's input. Wish me luck.

[Rigmaster]

Get that title and have your release of interest notarized. Copy both sides for your records and mail the new owner the original via registered mail. He will have to sign to receive it and you get a receipt back as proof.

Next you need to get the tags back off the car. You need to turn them back in before/as you cancel any insurance coverage on the car. If the new owner refuses to release them to you, call your sheriff and ask for an escort. Hopefully you either kept the tags at the sale or otherwise have them in your possession. Once the tags are returned to your state, cancel any insurance on the car.

As has been said, you sold and they bought the car "as is" and you have that fact, signed, in writing. You need to finish the process as soon and as cleanly as possible. Do not respond to any of his threats and just hold your ground. If he decides he wants to sue, let him... you're in the right and he can pay for your lawyer and time spent defending yourself when you win.

good advice, mostly.

EXCEPT for the part about getting the tags back. If he (the new owner) is driving on the PO's tags, then the PO is leaving himself open for all sorts of trouble- especially now that the new owner is trying to get $$ back from the PO.


NEVER leave your tags on a car that you have sold. If the person says they just want to leave them on there long enough to drive the car home, then they'll bring them or mail them back to you- then it's up to you, but I wouldn't do it. I would offer to drive the car to their house, then remove the tags and take them with me.


If you leave your tags on the car, and the new owner drives on them, technically and legally, you still own the car and any accidents would get charged against your insurance. Think of what would happen if the new owner drove the car into a crowded bus stop or drifted the car underneath a log truck. YOU would be the proud new owner of the liability that goes along with the damage done by the wreck.

[aaronmjr]

So even after I do the title transfer my license plates could still get me in trouble??? thats wierd. I've bought cars, done the title and all and have used the existing plates for years. the dmv never told me to get new ones.

[Massive Lee]

Hi Aaron

Just curious. How much under the usual value did you sell the car for? Can you go halfway and refund the buyer $500 for an unsuspected flaw (as a good will)? Your car was the AMG, right? I remember being tempted. If the tranny had died on me within the week, I would have called you back and ask for a settlement that pleased both you and I. Even if the car hasn't been inspected. Sometimes some trannies don't show any sign before dying. $500 is nothing to make peace.

[Julien]

Hi Aaron

Just curious. How much under the usual value did you sell the car for? Can you go halfway and refund the buyer $500 for an unsuspected flaw (as a good will)? Your car was the AMG, right? I remember being tempted. If the tranny had died on me within the week, I would have called you back and ask for a settlement that pleased both you and I. Even if the car hasn't been inspected. Sometimes some trannies don't show any sign before dying. $500 is nothing to make peace.

100% agree

[Ryan Stewart]

If you give anything the guy will want more. He is already asking for money you dont owe. You make amends if you want to do further business but not just because a used car had an unexpected issue.

If that were the case there would be no used car dealers because they would have gone broke from refunding everyone their money.

[Massive Lee]

In every negociation, each party wins a bit and looses a bit. Both end up on top. My view on the situation is to let the guy know that he has no chance at all if he goes to court. Explain clearly why. Then offer $500 to settle it and buy peace, under the condition he doesn't go to court and have him sign a "contract". He will probably refuse, go to court and loose. At least Aaron will have shown good will. Always have a witness to every contact and have the other guy sign the title when cashing the $500. That money is basically the bait to protect Aaron.