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    Tax the rich!

    This is BS.
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    By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer Tue May 13, 7:59 PM ET

    WASHINGTON - House Democrats are proposing a tax surcharge on millionaires to pay for a big increase in education benefits for veterans of the war in Iraq, lawmakers said Tuesday.

    The plan, if accepted by rank-and-file Democrats, would clear the way for a vote Thursday on a long-stalled war funding bill that would pay for military and diplomatic operations in Iraq and Afghanistan into next spring.

    Conservative "Blue Dog" Democrats blocked a vote last week over Democratic leaders' attempts to add an additional $51.8 billion over the next decade for veterans education to the $183.8 billion war funding tab. They insisted on finding a way to pay for the new benefit without simply adding to the deficit.

    "What we're talking about is a one-half percent income tax surcharge on incomes above $1 million," said Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., a leader of the Blue Dog group. "So someone who earns $2 million a year would pay $5,000. ... They're not going to miss it."

    The $1 million income level would apply to couples. Individuals would pay the surcharge on income exceeding $500,000.

    The idea earned support from House leaders at a late afternoon meeting of top Democrats, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California.

    The new GI Bill would essentially guarantee a full-ride scholarship to any in-state public university, along with a monthly housing stipend, for individuals who serve the military for at least three years.

    It's not at all clear that the tax surcharge could survive the Senate and it would likely prompt a veto from President Bush if it were to be presented to him. Still, the development allows House Democrats to keep promises to adhere to pay-as-you-go budget rules that were a top campaign plank in 2006.

    The war funding bill still faces a troubled path to enactment and Democrats appear likely to miss their goal of passing the bill by Memorial Day.

    Overall, the measure provides $96.6 billion of the $100 billion Bush requested to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan through the end of September. The $3.4 billion left over would be used to pay for military base and hospital construction, additional food aid and cover shortfalls identified by the Bureau of the Census and the Bureau of Prisons.

    Another $66 billion for the Pentagon for the 2009 budget year beginning Oct. 1 would keep troops funded until the next administration can set war policy.

    Democrats also plan to add a two-year, $15.6 billion plan to give 13 more weeks of unemployment checks to people whose benefits have run out and 13 weeks beyond that in states with especially high unemployment rates. That provision would not comply with the budget rules requiring deficit neutrality.

    Democrats also plan to use the war funding bill to carry legislation to block new Bush administration regulations that would cut federal spending on Medicaid health care for the poor by $13 billion over the next five years. The House last month passed that measure by a veto-proof 349-62 margin.

    Democrats will try — as they have unsuccessfully in the past — to force the troops home. The bill would require that troops start leaving Iraq within 30 days of its enactment and set a nonbinding goal of withdrawing combat troops by the end of December 2009. It also would require that any troops deployed into a combat zone exceed the Pentagon's peacetime standards for being fully trained and equipped.

    However, both of these provisions are expected to fail in the Senate and be stripped from a final bill the House is to approve this spring.

    The legislation also includes another $5.8 billion, as requested by Bush, to build flood protection levees around New Orleans.
    Joe Funk -- Portland Oregon
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    03 X5. 3 liter obviously.

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      #3
      what a great recipe. punish hard work. what if you raised your kids with these standards? fucking idiots
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        #4
        Originally posted by blunt View Post
        what a great recipe. punish hard work.
        ^ what he said.
        Originally posted by Matt-B
        hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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          #5
          I'm not trying to sound like a rich punk.

          Heres my take. My dad owns a very successful small business, and his income yearly hovers around a million. However due to the fact that his business is a Pre-IPO financing company, most of the money he makes goes straight back into the company. He's gonna miss 5000 dollars. I tested the Dems idea of him not missing it by asking him for the 5000 because the Dems said he wouldn't miss it, and they know all dontcha ya know? and he said he would miss 5000.

          that is all. fuck you democrats
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          Last edited by dvs909; 03-03-2011, 06:58 AM.

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            #6
            I hate libs.

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              #7
              So frustrating. Amen blunt.

              If they want to punish those who work hard, perhaps we should just do away with the grading system in school and give everyone a "c" regardless of how much work they do. Same damned thing. grr.

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                #8
                The people with successful businesses are PROVIDERS. PROVIDERS know what it is like to scrape bottom, not all of them had everything handed to them on a silver platter. They WILL miss $5000. It is the lower class that spends it frivolously.

                Class segregation has a lot to do with spending habits.
                Why don't the D's require saving money instead of spending on big-screen TVs. That way, instead of needing unemployment, they have savings to pull from.

                Concept.
                Joe Funk -- Portland Oregon
                That Guy.
                03 X5. 3 liter obviously.

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                  #9
                  Because the D's like to prop up so many lower class people with all the free incentives to have 8 kids and drive a Lexus while on welfare. And frankly I am sick of giving and giving more of my hard earned money to the government to goto this cause.

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                    #10
                    Hahahahahahahahahahaha Like anyone on R3v earns more than 500K a year. If so, paystubs or ban.

                    SILBER COMBAT UNIT DELTA (M-Technic Marshal)
                    RTFM:http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=56950

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ray Smoodiver View Post
                      Hahahahahahahahahahaha Like anyone on R3v earns more than 500K a year. If so, paystubs or ban.
                      It's the principle. Now go throw another shrimp on the barbi...
                      Originally posted by Simon S
                      When a dream is a dream for too long - it becomes a fantasy..

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                        #12
                        like i say to canadians who do nothing but bitch, moan and complain.

                        If you don't like it so much, GTFO. I know i would, But i've seen the other options, and i choose to stay put....for the time being...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by SuperDuper View Post
                          It's the principle. Now go throw another shrimp on the barbi...

                          Said shrimp thrown......

                          SILBER COMBAT UNIT DELTA (M-Technic Marshal)
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ray Smoodiver View Post
                            Said shrimp thrown......
                            :nice: Now I'm hungry...
                            Originally posted by Simon S
                            When a dream is a dream for too long - it becomes a fantasy..

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                              #15
                              Yay!!!! more income/wealth redistribution.

                              Interesting how a wealthy individual (which really scales all the way down to middle class income earners under Democratic policy consideration, but for purposes of this conversation let's just say 200k+) could see as much as fifty percent of their income being removed due to taxes under Democratic initiatives (Federal & State) here in California. Federal income tax back up to 38 or 39 percent, this coupled with already high sales tax, property taxes, and restructuring of payroll taxes. Frightening.

                              Any chance we could go back to that whole non-socialistic structure that seemed to work so well for the past, oh I don't know, 200 years?

                              Also interesting to note that by today's Democratic standards, John F. Kennedy, for all intents and purposes, would be considered a Conservative

                              Lowered taxes......check
                              Increased defense spending.......check
                              etc.
                              etc.
                              etc.

                              Not to say that the current, spending more and enlarging government at a faster rate than any other president aside from L.B.J., President is a model of conservative values (small government).

                              (Non-partisan, independent rant off)

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