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I dont support bush, hes an idiot but Obama will bring a whole new level of acceleration to how fast this country will go down the shitter. I earn my own money and have to give enough of it the government as it is.
edit: JPL you have hit it on the head, I was gearing up to post a very similar post, thank you for saving me the time.Leave a comment:
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here's the problem with your viewpoint. America was not created to provide you better health, jobs, or better education etc. America was created to protect your right to ethically seek a better life for you and your family, which may or may not include better health, jobs, education etc. i will not presume to know what is best for you. my idea of a strong economy is one in which i work for everything i get and i am proud to do so. if i take out a loan that is stupid and risky and i default, i do not expect you to have to bail me out. if an earthquake levels my house or a bird shits on my car i do not expect you to clean it up either. if you want to help then that's fine, but i will not make you because i have no right to do so.
i don't support either parties because both expand the government. the only way anyone can get elected now is to promise you the voter a gift from the treasury. we (society) are the problem.Leave a comment:
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jilien
Its not that I support what bush has done. I think he is a crook and feeding his own at this point. I support what this country was founded out. Its my right as an American to live by the rights of the land. I am not one to give to those that "dont" help themselves. America is the land of the free and home of the brave. That is what makes this country so great. Only in America could Obama grow up like he did and now be a President nominee. Only in America can you start from nothing and become really successful. America has many freedoms that other countries only wish they had.
I am a huge gun supporter as most of you know. I do not think everyone should own them but law abiding citizens of america that have no criminal history should be able to do what ever they want to do without anyone telling them how or what to do. The right to bare arms was so that Government would not overpower their people. The government is to work For the people not the people for the government. We should not live in fear. And the only way is to have the population armed. Sorry thats the way it was written and I agree 100%.
the United States just has not been falling apart in the last 8 years. Just its all filtering out now. No help from the ones in office but all blame is not placed on the current political party. Greed, and lazy people are what caused this. People thinking that they all can drive Porches and live in huge houses. There is a cast system per say just people dont understand it. Most have because they were born with it or got it because they did illegal activity. The Kennedy's are a prime example. The states hold them to a high standard but in reality they were nothing but bootleggers during prohibition and were pretty people. They manipulated the system and history forgets where they came from.
I just cant stand people that think all the problems of today started with Bush coming into power. There needs to be a change but a change back to the way it was from the beginning. You work for what you got. Nothing is owed to you and there is no free ride.
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now that california is allowing gay marriages im heading west and will begin courting pinepig.
we think alike and i hope to make him mineLeave a comment:
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seriously, touching story. Now wake up and see how america has gone down hill in the last 8 years (please find an argument against this, I look forward to your creativity)
Interesting that europeans have a strong economy/health/jobs/etc. Even with high taxes, immigration problems and terrorism and no guns... they are doing well for themselves.
I just don't see how you guys can still support Bush or the republican party, it's rediculous. Everything that has been done by the Bush administration has only benefitted a slight portion of the US population at the cost of the rest.
blah, waste of effort on my part, carry on.
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I wanted to start a post on what or how people will think the United States will be in say 5 and 10 years from now. It would be cool to look in the archives of R3v and find the post to see how many are off or who was right on. I understand that this is a car forum and not a political forum but its a way all of us can learn something in the off topic section.
Many of you guys see me as a Southern Redneck that is pro-gun anti-abortion right winged conservative. But those that know me I think would vouch for me that really Im just like everyone else. I enjoy cars and thats why Im here. I love debate and love to get minds thinking. I learn from what others have to say and who knows maybe I might say something that you might learn. So Dont take what I say as an attack on what you guys think and believe but just as someone else that might see things differently.
Me, I feel what ever president is elected will not make for much change. Obama I think would make more of a change but that might not all be for the better. Obama does say some really interesting things and its what the people want to hear and are thinking. But remember America was founded because the English people that left did not want a Big Government, they did not want to be told what to do and wrote a constitution that was not to be changed to protect their views. Today we have gotten away from that and government has gotten out of control. We have created a monster that continues to feed on the fabric that the constitution was founded on. Once a right or freedom is taken away, its next to impossible to ever get back.Leave a comment:
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Eric Holder, Another Member Of Obama's Vice Presidential Vetting Team, Engaged In Controversial Activity:
Eric Holder Is Another Member Of Obama's Vice Presidential Vetting Committee. "But Johnson is not the only member of Obama's vice presidential vetting committee that Republicans have targeted. They also are preparing a case against former deputy attorney general Eric Holder for his role in the granting of a pardon to fugitive financier Marc Rich in the last days of the Clinton White House." (Jonathan Weisman and David S. Hilzenrath, "Obama's Choice Of Insider Draws Fire," The Washington Post, 6/11/08)
In 2002, Eric Holder Lobbied On Behalf Of Global Crossing After The Company Had Accumulated Nearly $12 Million In Debt. "Smelling blood in the water, Republicans now plan to pounce on another member of Obama's veep-selection committee, former Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder, for his lobbying on behalf of telecom giant Global Crossing. Holder lobbied for the company, which underwent one of the largest bankruptcies in American history after racking up nearly $12 million in debt, as it emerged from bankruptcy in 2002, Senate lobbying disclosure documents reveal." (Charles Hurt and Geoff Earle, "O's Veep Hunter Quits," New York Post, 6/12/08)
Holder Was Involved In A Sweetheart Deal, Which Granted Fugitive Marc Rich A Controversial Pardon From Outgoing President Bill Clinton:
"As Deputy Attorney General, Holder Was The Key Person Who Made The Pardon Of Marc Rich Possible In The Final Hours Of The Clinton Presidency." (Dick Morris and Eileen McGann, Op-Ed, "Obama's VP Search Mistake," New York Post, 6/5/08)
Rich Was Under Charges Of Wire Fraud, Tax Fraud, And Illegal Trading With Iran. "[M]arc Rich, the fugitive billionaire who renounced his U.S. citizenship and moved to Switzerland to avoid prosecution for racketeering, wire fraud, 51 counts of tax fraud, evading $48 million in taxes, and engaging in illegal trades with Iran in violation of the U.S. embargo following the 1979-80 hostage crisis" (Dick Morris and Eileen McGann, Op-Ed, "Obama's VP Search Mistake," New York Post, 6/5/08)
To Obtain A Pardon, Rich Retained Former White House Counsel Jack Quinn, Who Circumvented Formal Pardon Application Procedures. "[R]ich wanted a pardon and he retained Jack Quinn, former counsel to the president, to lobby his old boss. ... From the start, the Rich lawyers ignored the government's established rules for pard on applications. Instead of making a formal application to the Office of Pardons in the Justice Department, Quinn sent the application directly to the White House in late December of 2007." (Dick Morris and Eileen McGann, Op-Ed, "Obama's VP Search Mistake," New York Post, 6/5/08)
Documents Emerged Which Indicated That Holder Had Recommended Quinn, And "Gave Substantive Advice To Quinn Along The Way." "Two days later, documents in support of the pardon were sent by Jack Quinn to Eric Holder. It was Holder who had originally recommended Quinn to one of Rich's advisers, although he claims that he did not know the identity of the client. And he gave s ubstantive advice to Quinn along the way. According to Quinn's notes that were produced to Congress, Holder told Quinn to take the pardon application 'straight to the White House' because 'the timing is good.' ... When Holder received the Rich materials, he did no independent research to determine their veracity and appears to have barely reviewed them." (Dick Morris and Eileen McGann, Op-Ed, "Obama's VP Search Mistake," New York Post, 6/5/08)
Holder Conducted No Independent Research To Scrutinize Quinn's Request On Behalf Of Rich. "When Holder received the Rich materials, he did no independent research to determine their veracity and appears to have barely reviewed them. ... [H]e never took the time to check anything and simply told the White House that he was 'neutral to positive' on the pardons." (Dick Morris and Eileen McGann, Op-Ed, "Obama's VP Search Mistake," New York Post, 6/5/08)
"Neither Clinton Nor Holder Ever Consulted With The Pardon Attorney." (Dick Morris and Eileen McGann, Op-Ed, "Obama's VP Search Mistake," New York Post, 6/5/08)
"Officials At The U.S. Attorney's Office In New York Were Understandably Infuriated When They Learned About The Pardon And Accused Rich Of Deliberating Bypassing Their Office." (Dick Morris and Eileen McGann, Op-Ed, "Obama's VP Search Mistake," New York Post, 6/5/08)
"In 2002, A Congressional Committee Reported That Holder Was A 'Willing Participant In The Plan To Keep The Justice Department From Knowing About And Opposing' The Rich Pardon." (Dick Morris and Eileen McGann, Op-Ed, "Obama's VP Search Mistake," New York Post, 6/5/08)
The Wall Street Journal: "As Deputy Attorney General in the Clinton Administration, he played a role in the Marc Rich pardon that also deserves to be fully vetted - all the more so if Mr. Holder is on the short list to be Mr. Obama's Attorney General." (Editorial, "Ex-Friends Of Barack," The Wall Street Journal, 6/12/08)
As Deputy Attorney General, Holder Also Supported Clemency For The Former FALN Members:
In August 1999, President Bill Clinton Offered Clemency To 16 Former Members Of The Puerto Rican Terrorist Group The Armed Forces Of National Liberation (FALN). "As the furor over President Clinton's recent clemency offer to 16 militant Puerto Rican nationalists continues, new evidence suggests the timing of the decision might have had more to do with the 1998 impeachment proceedings than with the First Lady's New York Senate campaign, as critics have charged. The White House also badly misjudged the repercussions of the decision on both sides of the clemency question. Though most of the critics have been the President's political enemies and police injured in FALN terrorist acts, restrictions placed on the clemency also have angered many in the Puerto Rican community and made it hard for the prisoners to accept the deal. Lawyers for the FALN members have denounced the Clinton offer as unfair. 'I don't think the President understood the reaction that Puerto Ricans would have on all sides of the issue,' said Rep. Nydia Velazquez (D-Brooklyn). The dustup began Aug. 11, when the President offered clemency to 16 former members of the FALN the Spanish acronym for Armed Forces of National Liberation which was linked to about 130 bombings that killed six and injured dozens from 1974 to 1983. The presidential offer was the culmination of a six-year campaign that began in 1993, when a Chicago lawyer filed clemency petitions for 17 imprisoned FALN members." (Edward Lewine, "How Bill Chose Clemency," [New York] Daily News, 9/5/99)
Holder Played A Major Role In The FALN Clemency Decision, According To FALN Documents And Memos. "Holder, a Barbadian immigrant's son who grew up in Queens and received his law degree from Columbia, has played major roles in the probe of Democratic funny-money in the 1996 elections, the Sexgate scandal and the recommendation to President Clinton on whether to free FALN terrorists from jail. A list of FALN documents withheld from Congress shows that many memos on the FALN clemency decision went directly to Holder, while Reno's role was minimal." (Brian Blomquist, "Ailing Reno Yielding Reins Of Justice," New York Post, 12/15/99)
Although The FBI Opposed Clemency, Holder Supported Clemency For The FALN Members. "Although The New York Times reported that the FBI, Bureau of Prisons and U.S. state attorneys opposed clemency, Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder, the Justice Department official most involved with this issue, reportedly supported clemency. 'Eric Holder told me he was recommending that,' a high-ranking official said. Ruff also supported clemency, sources said. Holder declined to comment." (Edward Lewine, "How Bill Chose Clemency," [New York] Daily News, 9/5/99)
In 1997, Holder Met With Three Members Of Congress And Made Recommendations To Them About How The FALN Members Could More Easily Be Granted Clemency. "The committee's documents show that Mr. Adams and Eric Holder, the Deputy Attorney General, met on Nov. 5, 1997, with Representative Luis V. Gutierrez, Democrat of Illinois, and Representatives Jose E. Serra no of the Bronx and Nydia M. Velazquez of Brooklyn, both Democrats, to discuss the case of the Puerto Rican inmates. According to Mr. Adams's notes, Mr. Holder told the members of Congress that because the prisoners had not applied themselves for clemency this could be taken that they were not repentant, and he suggested that a statement expressing some remorse might help. In their testimony today, both Mr. Adams and Mr. Holder declined to answer several questions about how the clemency decision was reached, citing executive privilege. Both said, however, that the Justice Department had acted appropriately throughout the process." (Neil A. Lewis, "Records Show Puerto Ricans Got U.S. Help With Clemency," The New York Times, 10/21/99)
A Subsequent Clinton Administration Justice Department Report Identified The Group As An "Ongoing Threat." "The Puerto Rican nationalist group FALN, 16 of whose members were pardoned by President Clinton in August, poses an 'ongoing threat' to national security, according to a September report by Attorney General Janet Reno released yesterday during a combative Senate hearing on the clemency decision." (David A. Vise and Lorraine Adams, "FALN A Threat, Reno Says," The Washington Post, 10/21/99)
Aw fuck it, vote for the magic man and belive in change (whatever that is)Leave a comment:
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