The Creation Museum in Kentucky shows dinosaurs alongside Adam & Eve in the Garden of Eden.
True story.
True story.
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See non-believers are as bad as fanatical Christian/religious nuts.
My Christian faith does not EVER use those assumptions, but, it does accept the "Gap Theory".
I know the planet is millions/billions of years old - PROVEN
I know I have seen fossils with my own eyes - PROVEN
I do believe that God has run the planet much as the Architect in the Matrix, many different cycles of life on this planet.
Other things twisted by religion...
Adam and Eve/Lilith
Apocryphal Books (14 books taken out of the bible by man-Cannon/Catholic decisions)
Gap Theory
Nephilim
So I guess I'm not your typical Christian.
And I don't buy into any of that 10 Commandments bullshit... I sin more than all of you combined.Comment
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Alot of the more religious people I know aren't bible thumpers or radical in any way. They would fall into the category of "Life feels better/Is easier when you have something greater to believe and put your faith in." Not my cup of tea, But I can see where they are coming from, That is why I don't bash religion.Comment
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In my belief, as founded by original Hebrew texts of the bible, and translations with todays resources, the bible stated that Adam and Eve were told by God that if they ate from the tree of good and evil they would die that day.
If the bible is a text from beginning to end that tells one story, then what is stated carries thru.
It is said that a day in the presence of God is like a thousand years.
Thus, if you eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you will die in one thousand years.
Moses and his ilk lived 900+ years, after the flood the bible stated the lifespan of man would be no more that one hundred and twenty years.
In what I believe, we were perfect at one time, but as punishments are, things were taken away from us. So we went from immortal life to no more than 120 years due to the mistakes of man fueled by the influence of Satan in his varied methods.
So, yeah, the design isn't getting better because we keep fucking shit up and not doing as told.Comment
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Nephilim
So I guess I'm not your typical Christian.
And I don't buy into any of that 10 Commandments bullshit... I sin more than all of you combined.
Interesting....I've never heard of Nephilim. Thanks for the link.Comment
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There is a lot of stuff the organized religous zelots have tried to hide/twist to their own desires.
I didn't even get into the fact that Jesus wasn't born near Christmas (dec. 25th), easter is a pagan solstice festival, Catholic Communion is a perverted concept of the truth.
In fact, did you know that the Catholic Church just applied the "can't beat 'em, join 'em" philosophy and twisted hundreds of Pagan rites into Catholic dogma to bring the "heathen" into the fold.
Easter Eggs are a pagan fertility token, as is the fertile rabbit. But we accept these concepts as part of the Easter holiday.
I'll come back and rant out some other stuff later...Comment
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I'm going to have to agree with this. Faith gives people stability. More stability = more reason to live and enjoy life.
What I found interesting is the basis of Christian faith. The reason it truly took off is because Constantine deemed it the religion of Rome. This was unorthodox for a man like him, because he worshiped Apollo, the sun god. In truth, he was very careful never to expose his true beliefs, instead seeing the growing popularity of Christianity used it to win over the crowd of beaten Romans. This occurred at a time of corrupt (on the part of Constantine) as he wasn't even in line to become the emperor, in fact the was no emperor. The land was so vast, it was divided into the East and West each ruled by a Caesar and an assistant (like a vice-president), they were called the tetrarchs and were set up by Diocletian. Diocletian was the head of the West and retired from power setting Constantine's father as an assistant of the West. Things of course got hectic as soon as Diocletian left and they began fighting over power. Diocletian came out of retirement to bring back order, which did not work work because Constantine had already placed himself in power in the West. Because of all of the civil wars, Rome was looking to grappel on to something steadfast and unwavering, in this case Constantine. In essence Constantine took power after his father died, killing Maxentious, Caesar of the East, at the battle of the Milvian Bridge, where Constantine proclaimed the win was from god because he had his company paint the sign "chi ro" on the front of their shields. Chi Ro is the sign of Jesus. Thus, the vulnerable Rome was taken over by Constantine, who overthrew the tetrarchy and used Christianity as a marketing scheme to win over the minds of the Roman community so they would not overthrow him in return.
Crazy, huh?Comment
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this has become bickering about small details.
Farbin, the statement that you feel sorry for us, is exactly why "we" don't like religious pricks. You can't belittle others, because you feel enlightened somehow. That is the reason why so many people are taking shots at religions.
the fact that christianity is bull shit is proven and documented, and it still remains the greatest scam in history. Lucky for Judaism, a whole lot of stuff was burnt, otherwise it would be right there with christianity. Every other major religion also falls short.
Faith is great, but it doesn't make you better than others, and it certainly doesn't make you more knowledgable.
Here's why I think bible is good for schools:
if it is bible study, and not passage study, kids would have a chance to read all the crazy shit that's in it. Any one taking geometry along with bible, will question bible. To me, the best way to get people off religion is to educate them on it.
Last time i went to church (southern babtist), they ran a video for teenagers, that said to abandon friends who make poor decisions. When we (teenagers) talked amongst ourselves, I was tearing my lungs out trying to prove that no one should ever abandon their friends in need. I was a lonely voice. I have never gone back there again, even though I initially liked the place for the way they explained different life situations.Comment
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Never said I felt sorry for you. I said I felt sorry for turf1600, someone I consider a friend via the net.
If I feel sorry for a man that fell off his bike as I drive past in the intersection, am I placing my actions of a "belittle" upon him? I simply feel for a person in a specific situation in relation to the reality of my experience. Nothing more.Comment
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By the way, the few times that i have gone to religious temples (and I've been to nearly every denomination, and orthodox temples (3/8 it), synagogues (1/2 it), and mosques (what do you know 1/8 it). All those places always made me feel good. It's true. Something about those places uplifts your spirit, gives you that extra breath. But it's not religion. I have been to many castles (born in Eastern Europe) and I got that same feeling walking through dungeons. Biltmore Estate, here in Asheville, NC, gave me that same feeling. Niagara falls did too.
I think it very reasonable for people to think "God" when they see something so much greater than we are. And that can be faith. And there you'd be agnostic, because you're looking at something in awe, not knowing why. Religion twists that awe, in the most disturbing manner, to make people fall in line, and believe what the guy next to you believes in. That is the problem.
Also, knowing schools, related to my previous post. They will most likely edit bible, just like they did "The Count of Monte Cristo" (they took hashish and prostitution out of our copies).Comment
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Nothing to feel sorry about. I made this decision for myself. As a kid I tried multiple churches and demoninations. To be honest each one disgusted me more than the last. The worst, most judgemental people I've ever met I met in church. all of that is moot anyways - when it comes down to it I just don't believe in any of it. I'm a natural born skeptic and religion has never been logical enough for me to buy."We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."Comment
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The context of your statement following his, seemed like pity.Comment
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If a bible class included the following information, I'd be all for it:
A thoughtful person who thinks about God cannot help but notice the amazing contradictions. They are everywhere you look.
Here is one very simple example. On the day Moses comes down from Mount Sinai with the stone tablets containing the Ten Commandments, he discovers that the Israelites have created a golden calf. To punish the people, Moses gathers a group of men and takes the following action in the book of Exodus, Chapter 32:
Then he [Moses] said to them, "This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' " The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died.
So... one minute we have God carving into stone, "Thou shalt not kill." Then the next minute we have God telling each man to strap a sword to his side and lay waste to thousands. Wouldn't you expect the almighty ruler of the universe to be slightly more consistent than this? 3,000 dead people is a lot of commandment breaking. Obviously that is a total contradiction. The reason why you find contradictions like that in the Bible is because God is imaginary.Last edited by ragged325; 07-21-2008, 04:26 PM.Comment
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That's a bit dramatic, but interesting verses none-the-less. I wonder which Bible he took the verses from.Comment
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Yes we should kill every one who make me work on Sabbath.Comment
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