Bush Impeachment Hearing

[Lair]

Clinton had a Republican congress.

We wouldn't have deficits now if planes didn't hit towers and sent the WORLD into economic slowdown. And we wouldn't be spending as much now on tightening up airport security, etc. if Clinton did what he should have done according to the recommendations. We also wouldn't have likely gone into Afghanistan is the towers weren't hit, nor spend as much domestically on homeland security.

You're an idiot if you think Bush could have passed anything he wanted.

Tightening medicare costs (not paying more to take care of them then they have paid) is not throwing them under the bus.

It's been six and a half years since those planes hit. When is Bush going to stop the bleeding? Is a recovery beyond his reach? Is it just that he's ignorant, or is it that he doesn't care about the economy OR Bin Laden?

The Towers were hit under Bush's watch, and we still haven't seen justice served to the man behind it.

At least Clinton was TRYING to catch OBL.

[Lair]

No matter what the stats are, Clinton, economically, was one of the best presidents to ever sit in the oval office.

But by that chart, to defend the W, the drop off began in '99. Duba didn't take office until January of 2001. Also by that chart, the rise began in '91, Clinton didn't take office until January of 93.

Clinton's economy is great, but very complicated. Current administration didn't listen to Fed Res, until it was just freaking necessary.

That chart is also very general.

That's all I'm saying. If Bush knew wtf he was doing, he could have stopped the slide and reversed it - like Clinton did.

[Lair]

this is not what you just said. you said revenues did not rise, and that kind of loose talk is what is getting you in trouble

Yes - I said "tax" revenues did not rise - which is true if you play the percentages game that you're so fond of.

Am in trouble? I don't FEEL like I'm in trouble.

[rwh11385]

Funny - your own graph shows that Clinton managed a surplus while taking care of all those elderly people you keep blaming Bush's record deficit on.

Bush was the ony branch of government for 6 years. He had the backing of a Republican majority Congress, and he could have passed any legislation he wanted. He could have balanced the budget without throwing helpless sernior citizens under the bus.

Clinton did it.

Clinton had a Republican congress.

We wouldn't have deficits now if planes didn't hit towers and sent the WORLD into economic slowdown. And we wouldn't be spending as much now on tightening up airport security, etc. if Clinton did what he should have done according to the recommendations. We also wouldn't have likely gone into Afghanistan is the towers weren't hit, nor spend as much domestically on homeland security.

You're an idiot if you think Bush could have passed anything he wanted.

Tightening medicare costs (not paying more to take care of them then they have paid) is not throwing them under the bus.

[Aptyp]

OH, even though the surplus was great, we were still trillions in debt. Clinton was trying to pay off debts. That was a huge reason why surplus dissapperad. Bush administration, tried it too, but with out greater surplus, it's like paying of credit card, with another credit card.

[Aptyp]

No matter what the stats are, Clinton, economically, was one of the best presidents to ever sit in the oval office.

But by that chart, to defend the W, the drop off began in '99. Duba didn't take office until January of 2001. Also by that chart, the rise began in '91, Clinton didn't take office until January of 93.

Clinton's economy is great, but very complicated. Current administration didn't listen to Fed Res, until it was just freaking necessary.

That chart is also very general.

[gwb72tii]

Tax collections rose, and spending rose even higher - exponentially higher.

this is not what you just said. you said revenues did not rise, and that kind of loose talk is what is getting you in trouble

[Pinepig]

Funny - your own graph shows that Clinton managed a surplus while taking care of all those elderly people you keep blaming Bush's record deficit on.





Bush was the ony branch of government for 6 years. He had the backing of a Republican majority Congress, and he could have passed any legislation he wanted. He could have balanced the budget without throwing helpless sernior citizens under the bus.

Clinton did it.


Here's a graph for you:

I love it when uneducated morons bring up the Clinton surplus.

http://www.letxa.com/articles/16

This will lay it out for ya pretty good, stats taken from the US treasury.

[Lair]

rightwing extremists? How do you know anyone other than yourself or your butt buddy are right or left wing? Whats worse than a right wing extremist..... left wing extremist? What exactly do you think you will be getting out of this rediculous discussion? Change 1 or 2 minds into something as crazy as yours? Come on.... get a life. Talk to someone who cares about what you have to say about all this BS coming from your cockholster. So you are telling me you live here to bitch about everything cause thats your freedom? You want to be a complainer all you life? I never have understood that point of view "I have the freedom to do whatever I want here, I hate this country" go screw yourself.

Nice drive by.

Come back when you can stay longer.

[Lair]

there you go again, to quote Regean

tax collections rose during bush

get it?

further

no president has control

ever hear the phrase "the pres proposes, congress disposes"?

and here's a question

if spending is such an issue with you, who are you voting for? you've disqulified Obama obviously. so who?

Bush' republican Congress didn't dispose of shit while they had a majority for 6 years.

Tax collections rose, and spending rose even higher - exponentially higher.


I don't know who I'm voting for yet.

It really depends on VP choice. If either candidate selects a religious freak or other nutjob, I'm going the other direction.

I may even vote for Cynthia McKinney.

[Lair]

Mandatory spending, especially medicare is the problem:

Funny - your own graph shows that Clinton managed a surplus while taking care of all those elderly people you keep blaming Bush's record deficit on.

So should have Bush just not worried about homeland security? Should he have magically cut mandatory spending in order to do so? Raising taxes wouldn't have increased revenues to fight a war. You have no understanding on tax revenue do you?

As much as unintelligent liberals would to blame Bush, he is not the only branch of government. He has tried to control medicare costs but he cannot wave a wand and change the nation, there's Congress to worry about.

Bush Seeks Surplus via Medicare Cuts

Bush was the ony branch of government for 6 years. He had the backing of a Republican majority Congress, and he could have passed any legislation he wanted. He could have balanced the budget without throwing helpless sernior citizens under the bus.

Clinton did it.


Here's a graph for you:

[BimmerE30]

rightwing extremists? How do you know anyone other than yourself or your butt buddy are right or left wing? Whats worse than a right wing extremist..... left wing extremist? What exactly do you think you will be getting out of this rediculous discussion? Change 1 or 2 minds into something as crazy as yours? Come on.... get a life. Talk to someone who cares about what you have to say about all this BS coming from your cockholster. So you are telling me you live here to bitch about everything cause thats your freedom? You want to be a complainer all you life? I never have understood that point of view "I have the freedom to do whatever I want here, I hate this country" go screw yourself.

[gwb72tii]

And additional spending without additional income helps CONTRIBUTE to the DEFICIT, you fool.


Bush is the president. Why doesn't he have control?

there you go again, to quote Regean

tax collections rose during bush

get it?

further

no president has control

ever hear the phrase "the pres proposes, congress disposes"?

and here's a question

if spending is such an issue with you, who are you voting for? you've disqulified Obama obviously. so who?

[rwh11385]

And additional spending without additional income helps CONTRIBUTE to the DEFICIT, you fool.


Bush is the president. Why doesn't he have control?

Mandatory spending, especially medicare is the problem:

How Is Medicare Funded?:
Unlike Social Security, Medicare payroll taxes and premiums cover only 57% of current benefits.
The remaining 43% is financed from general revenues. [i.e. stealing from the budget and making deficits] Because of rising health care costs, general revenues will have to pay for 62% of Medicare costs by 2030.

So should have Bush just not worried about homeland security? Should he have magically cut mandatory spending in order to do so? Raising taxes wouldn't have increased revenues to fight a war. You have no understanding on tax revenue do you?

As much as unintelligent liberals would to blame Bush, he is not the only branch of government. He has tried to control medicare costs but he cannot wave a wand and change the nation, there's Congress to worry about.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/04/AR2008020402490.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/washington/31budget.html?ref=us

Bush Seeks Surplus via Medicare Cuts

The two health programs account for nearly one-fourth of all federal spending, and their combined cost — $627 billion last year — is expected to double in a decade.

[Lair]

Like I have posted multiple times with facts and numbers to back it up, the primary concern of spending and the deficit is mandatory spending that are not under the control of Bush, unless he seriously wants to piss off the elderly.



I like how you just call horseshit, although it is true... and once again you have no numbers, no facts, just stupid liberal propaganda. Your liberal mindset is based on ignorance and hatred, not understanding of the issues. Which I why I think liberals are usually worthless, they believe the crap they are told without looking at the numbers or understanding economics. Once again, I'll allude to minimum wage (they think will help rather than hurt unskilled people).

Tax cuts helps CONTRIBUTE to the REVENUES, you fool.

And additional spending without additional income helps CONTRIBUTE to the DEFICIT, you fool.


Bush is the president. Why doesn't he have control?