South Ossetia vs. Georgia conflict

[Jean]

How many of you believe what the US media is showing and making South Ossetia and Russia look bad? How many of you know more than what you see on TV? What connection do you think or know McCain has in this.

Discuss.

[apexede30]

Not going to get into this one, everyone has their headstrong opinions, blah blah blah, but apparently some fellow GA Georgians read their newspaper and freaked the fuck out, wondering if they should be worried about the Russian tanks that somehow appeared in america. Gave me a good long laugh.

[e30sd]

russian policy isnt motivated by evil thoughts, rather it's pragmatism. but seriously, whats next, nagorno-karabakh? most of my recent time was spent stuying regional security in "north-western" europe/eurasia. its more complicated than the 2:30 min package shown on nbc nightly news.

[e30 gangsta]

No one is going to help Georgia unfortunately.

[Jean]

I don't believe it's a laughing matter over 2000 civilians dead.

[Jean]

No one is going to help Georgia unfortunately.

Why unfortunately? Did they not just wipe out civilians?

[e30sd]

Why unfortunately? Did they not just wipe out civilians?

yeah they did just kinda raze 10 ossetian villages.

[apexede30]

I still find it funny. Bigtory, all of it. This is nothing compared to the Chetchen conflicts, but everyone gets their panties in a bunch. Not to mention south america or the plethera of horrid things going on in africa. But since we all read the news, we're top experts on all of it. Even moreso than the russians.

[Aptyp]

It's been coming for a long ass time. I just hope America learned from previous mistakes not to get involved. Doubt Bush has learned anything, ever.

I watched CNN today, and anchor woman was saying "Russia" with such despise, it mad me laugh. US is such a friendly country, how could those evil Russians invade some one.

Anyhow, Ossetia has been trying to separate from georgia since 1992. Ossetia is 80% Russian population. About a month ago Gruzini began attacking russians and that didn't sit well with the Federation, because Ossetia has gazprom's pipes running through it. Russians gave warnings about such actions for 16 years now, but US media won't say anything about it.

Considering both countries are intelligent, this conflict is pretty much over, unless US is planning on another blowback by interfering in other's business.

Bush's speech pissed me off. I may not be Russian, but that hits too close to home for me.

[e30sd]

this concerns the US more then chechnya ever did. in r3v terminology, georgia wants to join NATO. the mere existence of NATO helps to permeate a kink in russian security plans for the region. georgia cant join NATO until it's stable, so russia helps to derail that plan by intervening in a "secessionist" movement. it's simple. the more they keep NATO down, the better they think it is for them. when in fact NATO is a bloated, outdated institution that really serves little to no functional purpose in current form. it could work with major restructuring but really it just helping to egg on the russians. come on, global governance, kum bay ya and shit...

[E30Kaiser]

russian policy isnt motivated by evil thoughts, rather it's pragmatism. but seriously, whats next, nagorno-karabakh? most of my recent time was spent stuying regional security in "north-western" europe/eurasia. its more complicated than the 2:30 min package shown on nbc nightly news.

I am wondering if it will spill over to Karabakh as well, especially since it seems Russia is pushing past merely South Ossetia at this moment so it seems a larger plan is on the table. I find the anti-South Ossetian/Russian sentiment strange as well. I mean the first footage of the conflict I saw was Georgian Grad MLRS's shooting at population centers, and we are hating on Russia for some reason. Not saying Russia is right to do what they are doing, but I don't think it is that wrong either.

[Aptyp]

Russia in all seriousness should not even care, and I doubt this has anything to do with NATO, because Russia would have invaded Poland by now.

I honestly think that conflict can take care of itself. I am more upset about US actions and media. Bush said it's a democratic elected Government in Georgia. Right, 96% of population have democratically elected their president. His election only fails to Iran's president. Even In Pakistan approval rate was only 94%.

Just let Russians do what they do best while no one is looking, and Georgia will be just fine.

[SpartanTiger81]

This is all prophecy. We will get involved.

[E30Kaiser]

This is all prophecy. We will get involved.

Are you talking about the Ghost Recon team? Lol Tom Clancy is the only "prophecy" I know of on this matter.

[Jon325i]

I haven't been paying that much attention to it - primarily because I do not watch the TV for news reports. A story such as this conflict in Georgia that's been watered & filtered down to a 2 minute segment simply does not do the story justice. I need to devote more time to researching it myself - not to mention getting up to speed on that part of the world. I just don't know much about it.

Jon