South Ossetia vs. Georgia conflict

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  • Jean
    Moderator
    • Aug 2006
    • 18228

    #31


    But as McCain backs "freedom loving" little Georgia (and his neocon/lobbyist senior advisor Randy Scheunemann, who until march was working for gGeorgia) and accuses Russia of trampling all over its sovereignty, he's neglecting a couple of major factors. For one, Russia is in South Ossetia with a CIS mandate for peacekeeping. For a second, tiny freedom-loving South Ossetia has voted several times for independence from it's bigger neighbour, which won't let it go.
    James Joyner discusses the notion of small-state sovereignty today in relation to South Ossetia and quotes Daniel Larison writing for American Conservative magazine.
    To understand the Russian response, imagine how Americans would respond if Serbia launched an attack into Kosovo while our KFOR troops were still there, and then imagine how much stronger the U.S. response would be if, in the course of the attack to retake the province, our troops took casualties because of that attack. These are the unfortunate, ruinous things that happen when state sovereignty is reduced to a meaningless phrase by past interventions and partitions, and the governments that attacked Yugoslavia over its internal affairs and partitioned Kosovo have no authority to find fault with what Russia is doing now.
    McCain doesn't want to understand the Russian response. If he was the one taking those 3am phone cals on this conflict, there would be American armed might on its way to Georgia to confront Russia right now and the world would be listening to the ticking clock of holocaust. That's far too dangerous a man to allow into the Oval Office
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    • Jean
      Moderator
      • Aug 2006
      • 18228

      #32
      Originally posted by Lair
      John McCrazy steps up the anti-Russia rhetoric, speaks for "all Americans":
      Of course, because Saakashvili is in on this with McCain, little coward.

      McCain is an idiot. Did Georgia not wipe out a huge population and attacked Russia peace keepers?

      Gotta love our media.
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      • E30Kaiser
        E30 Mastermind
        • Mar 2008
        • 1790

        #33
        Putin for president I say, he may be evil, but he's smart!
        "We're not here for a long time, we're here for a good time"-Colin McCrae

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        • Aptyp
          R3V OG
          • Feb 2008
          • 6584

          #34
          First of, I support McCain in his anti-Russian policy. It was great for both countries, and knocked off all other idiot countries off of their pedestals. Russia and US are still the most powerful countries in the world, and by far the most advanced.

          Cold War was nothing but a military cock-tease, both countries could but neither did anything. Just policies and scare tactics.

          Russians feel the same way. Having world divided between this two super powers would open doors for US and Russia to do new things. May even land a human being on Mars.



          Lair, do you have any BMW related posts? Anything you have contributed to r3v? Every time i see a post by you, it's some BS. You know nothing about that conflict as opposed to people who have lived there and know better. You can be as old and as experienced as any one out there, but with a closed mind like yours, you're still just an idiot.

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          • Lair
            E30 Mastermind
            • Apr 2006
            • 1553

            #35
            Maybe if you spent less time in OT, you'd see what I've contributed. ;)

            I posted a direct quote of what John McCain said today, and I didn't take a stance on any of it.

            I don't care one way or the other about the conflict - I just don't want McCain dragging my country back into the Cold War.

            Idiot.
            McCain's military draft: Are you willing to bet your life?

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            • Pinepig
              E30 Mastermind
              • Sep 2007
              • 1811

              #36
              Originally posted by Lair
              Maybe if you spent less time in OT, you'd see what I've contributed. ;)

              I just checked your last 500 posts, two questions answered a few opinions about cars to be purchased, a for sale thread ( of some fucking ugly wheels ) and a shitload of OT posting.
              :blowup:

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              • E30Kaiser
                E30 Mastermind
                • Mar 2008
                • 1790

                #37
                CNN just had the Russian Ambassador on and I think it showed what is really going on. He just stressed that the Georgia president should be viewed as more than just a misbehaving child, and used the word cleansing several times.
                "We're not here for a long time, we're here for a good time"-Colin McCrae

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                • Pinepig
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1811

                  #38
                  Originally posted by E30Kaiser
                  and used the word cleansing several times.

                  That's usually a bad statement, normally preceded by the word " Ethnic "

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                  • E30Kaiser
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1790

                    #39
                    Yeah, i am pretty sure the words ethnic accompanied it, as he was talking about Georgian actions against Ossetians.
                    "We're not here for a long time, we're here for a good time"-Colin McCrae

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                    • Joe318is
                      R3V OG
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 6451

                      #40


                      Originally posted by vlad
                      Do you know anybody else who built that many bad ass E30s?

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                      • Lair
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 1553

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Pinepig
                        I just checked your last 500 posts, two questions answered a few opinions about cars to be purchased, a for sale thread ( of some fucking ugly wheels ) and a shitload of OT posting.
                        :blowup:
                        That's not what I found.

                        Are you the forum police?

                        BTW, a quick search of YOUR posts shows nine pages of OT posts, and only one in General Discussion.

                        I'm impressed. You're not just a liar - you're a hypocrite as well.
                        McCain's military draft: Are you willing to bet your life?

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                        • Aptyp
                          R3V OG
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 6584

                          #42
                          Lair, you're a waste of bandwidth. Go work on your car, or join a forum where you can be an asshole to people who are interested in your communist shit. We already know that your midlife crisis has come and gone, and now you just sit in your rocking chair and preach how us youngsters don't share your views of the good old Nixon days when you couldn't trust any one. Fuck off.


                          I love this image, pretty much summarized everything. Thank you Joe.

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                          • Pinepig
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1811

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Lair
                            That's not what I found.

                            Are you the forum police?

                            BTW, a quick search of YOUR posts shows nine pages of OT posts, and only one in General Discussion.

                            I'm impressed. You're not just a liar - you're a hypocrite as well.
                            May I suggest you go look again, looking up you past posts is pretty damn easy as you have now found out.

                            I never said I was a "big" contributor here like you did. I come here for the off topic as I know a few of the folks here.

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                            • Lair
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 1553

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Pinepig
                              May I suggest you go look again, looking up you past posts is pretty damn easy as you have now found out.

                              I never said I was a "big" contributor here like you did. I come here for the off topic as I know a few of the folks here.

                              LMAO

                              Keep perpetuating the lies.

                              I never claimed to be a "big" contributor here. I merely pointed out that aptyp was running his mouth about my contributions here without checking the facts first.

                              I'm here because of my interest in BMW's e30 chassis car. I've owned 5 or 6 of them, and 11 different 3 series cars in total. I like r3v because it's model-specific, and has a wealth of information that I can use. I also enjoy sharing whatever info or opinions I've gotten over the past 15 years of driving BMW's. This place has been invaluable since I started my latest e30 project. I've tried to return the favor by sharing advice, opinions, techniques, and experience that I've gained over the last 32 years (and 55+ cars).

                              Playing with assholes like you & aptyp & rwh is just a bonus. ;)
                              McCain's military draft: Are you willing to bet your life?

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                              • atomic
                                R3V Elite
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 5691

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Aptyp
                                Lair, you're a waste of bandwidth. Go work on your car, or join a forum where you can be an asshole to people who are interested in your communist shit. We already know that your midlife crisis has come and gone, and now you just sit in your rocking chair and preach how us youngsters don't share your views of the good old Nixon days when you couldn't trust any one. Fuck off.


                                I love this image, pretty much summarized everything. Thank you Joe.

                                Lair already is on another site doing that...

                                Go check out JuliusPleaser on Bf.c and rifle through the war & politics thread in OT...

                                :hitler:

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