Creation Thread

[Turf1600]

Well, I know the bible refers to cannabis, as part of a salve to rub on the ark of the covenant. I also know, that many items and places can be determined on a time table due to reigns of kings, historical geologic/meteorological events. I do not, however recall scientific statements/knowledge like the buoyancy of a boat in reference to the amount of animal volume in the form of an equation.

He's referring to shit like "the bible stated that the earth was round" when in fact it's a sphere. There's a handfull of extremely vague references that can be misunderstood to be science.

[Turf1600]

yea that looks like a good read

It was pretty much propaganda

[Farbin Kaiber]

There are many many many scientists that believe in creation and if you were to actually read some of the bible you would see that it is full of scientific knowledge that has been validated by modern science.

Well, I know the bible refers to cannabis, as part of a salve to rub on the ark of the covenant. I also know, that many items and places can be determined on a time table due to reigns of kings, historical geologic/meteorological events. I do not, however recall scientific statements/knowledge like the buoyancy of a boat in reference to the amount of animal volume in the form of an equation.

[assoutE12]

yea that looks like a good read

[Turf1600]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0061335290


I suggest a reading of this book. I rather enjoyed most of it.

Read it.

Besides, Dawkins is the world's most notorious atheist. I don't think anyone can change his mind (or mine).

[Farbin Kaiber]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0061335290

I suggest a reading of this book. I rather enjoyed most of it.

[Turf1600]

if you were to actually read some of the bible you would see that it is full of scientific knowledge that has been validated by modern science.

Examples? Because I'm willing to bet they are all extremely vague.

[assoutE12]

Believing in magic and ghosts is one thing, and while I think to indoctrinate your kids with this crazyness is child abuse.

Keep that shit the fuck out of my schools!

[scottyp]

Spoken like a true ignoramus. You clearly don't understand how ridiculous you sound. Notice how the people that support creation in this thread don't deny evolution? That is because only the most irrational people still say that it didn't happen and that we were just put here by some ghost.

Seriously man, get a grip.

Aw man don't call me names that's not nice. I never called you names. Also please explain how i didn't deny evolution. and who built your car? your house? the clothes you are wearing?

There are many many many scientists that believe in creation and if you were to actually read some of the bible you would see that it is full of scientific knowledge that has been validated by modern science.

I am just posting my opinion there is no need to get angry about it.

[CorvallisBMW]

I think we should require high school students to attend a class called "Noah's Ark". It would explain how Noah built a big boat and gathered two of each type of animal. Then the creator flooded the world and Noah floated around until it was dry again. The animal pairs went on to repopulate the earth. When it was over, God created rainbows as a promise that he would never flood the earth again (which is a pretty good explanation for rainbows).

Some of the students would believe this, but most would develop critical thinking skills and learn not to believe everything someone tells them.

Ya, I always wondered how Noah managed to save the Kangaroos. Considering no one knew Australia existed, and they can't swim :P

[ragged325]

I think we should require high school students to attend a class called "Noah's Ark". It would explain how Noah built a big boat and gathered two of each type of animal. Then the creator flooded the world and Noah floated around until it was dry again. The animal pairs went on to repopulate the earth. When it was over, God created rainbows as a promise that he would never flood the earth again (which is a pretty good explanation for rainbows).

Some of the students would believe this, but most would develop critical thinking skills and learn not to believe everything someone tells them.

[payney8]

here here. And you all have valid points to my post.

[TwoJ's]

i cant wait until my 325is evolves into a m3, how long do i need to wait for that to happen? or perhaps the house i've been meaning to build will just pull itself together? evolution makes perfect sense

Spoken like a true ignoramus. You clearly don't understand how ridiculous you sound. Notice how the people that support creation in this thread don't deny evolution? That is because only the most irrational people still say that it didn't happen and that we were just put here by some ghost.

Seriously man, get a grip.

[scottyp]

i cant wait until my 325is evolves into a m3, how long do i need to wait for that to happen? or perhaps the house i've been meaning to build will just pull itself together? evolution makes perfect sense

[TwoJ's]

Nando, we will very likely never know. There is no way that we can determine how much matter; or mass, is in the universe. It is widely accepted that we cannot determine how much of the universe we can even see. We may only be able to see 5% of the universe. Sure, we could eventually develop highly sophisticated instruments, but there is a physical limit to how much we can look at. Add that to the fact that not all matter in the universe lets light escape (dark matter, singularities) and it is easy to see that it is almost sure that we will never know the fate of our universe.

Also, even if we could know how much mass there is in the universe, it would take a GUT (grand unification theory) to even consider making an 'educated guess' about anything related to what we are talking about. A legitimate GUT would show Einstein's theory of relativity to be not correct in certain situations, and the whole world of physics would be turned upside down for a decade or two.

By the way, a GUT would have to provide laws of nature that are applicable for EVERY type of physical interaction. So it would have to hold up for electro-magnetic, gravitational, weak nuclear and strong nuclear forces. I'm not going to say it's impossible, but it is highly likely that the human race will never come up with such a thing.

And this isn't just the ramblings of some college kid, it is the opinion of some of the greatest physicists in the world.