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    bold presidential election prediction (spoiler alert)

    I think that both McCain and Obama both know how this election is going to end (unless there is an assassination, etc.). This explains why McCain is making some desperate moves (Palin, suspending campaign, lying, etc.) and Obama is more controlled.

    The conventional wisdom (CW) is that Obama is up a couple of points in the polls, but when you figure in the margin of error, electoral map and undecideds, it's a toss-up. The CW says that there are 10-12% undecideds and this election will be won by the side that gets their votes during the debates, etc..

    The Roves of the world know it doesn't work this way. If someone has not made up their mind yet they;

    a. probably don't watch the news
    b. don't really care about politics
    c. are not going to bother to vote

    What it comes down to is who will actually go to vote. It's pretty cold in the middle of November in most places, the days are pretty short, and Tuesday is a work day. Nobody really wants to look for a parking spot and then stand in line for half an hour at the YMCA. In recent Presidential elections, about 50-55% of the voting-age population actually goes to vote.

    So you have to look at who is more motivated to vote. On the Republican side you should consider:

    a. McCain is really not that popular with hard-core Republicans. He's more of a moderate who flip-flops on issues and isn't likely to listen to anyone once he's elected.

    b. Most are not really proud of their party after the sitting president offered $700 billion to bail out private companies.

    c. Believe that Palin agrees with them on social issues, but really isn't ready to become President.

    On the Democrat side:

    a. Overall like Obama (better than Gore, Kerry)

    b. Are angry about putting up with Bush for eight years and losing in 2000 and 2004

    c. Are scared by the idea of Palin becoming Pres.

    The evidence for this can be seen in voter registration. There are 28 states that register voter registration by party. Since 2006, two million more people have registered to vote as Democrats in those states while during the same period, there are 344,000 fewer registered Republicans.

    In past campaigns the Republicans have been able to get their base riled-up about abortion, gay marriage, etc. as a motivation to vote. I don't see that happening this year. I think when a Republican answers a phone poll, they're saying they would vote for McCain, but that doesn't mean that they actually will.

    Final Cliff Notes result. Obama/Biden walk away from this one with out too much of a struggle.

    #2
    No. Just No. I bet McCain still wins.
    tasty

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      #3
      Middle America is going to have a very hard time voting for a black guy named "Barack Hussein Obama".

      Just prodding that 800 lb gorilla.

      -Charlie
      Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
      '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
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        #4
        This thread sucks.

        And Palin is running for VP.
        sigpic

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          #5
          Id have to agree with charlie.... The skin color doesnt bother me as much as the name. If it was the same black man who's name was John Dawkins, Id be totally fine. Hell, not to sound racist, but even if he had a "black name", Id still be comfortable. Its just something about the name people (I do at least) associate with the culture we are at war with. That is my ignorance, Im aware of this. But its also the ignorance of many other americans, if they admit it or not. That is why Im responsible enough to not vote...

          (racist flame suit on).
          Originally posted by blunt
          i would jerk larry king off while tonging jflips ass if h0lmes would blow his head off

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            #6
            There's too many old lady republicans that actually go and vote. All of these kids with Obama stickers on their priuses are such a fucking joke to me. I bet half of them arent even registered to vote, and a majority of them won't take the time to go and vote. They're all just hopping on the "change" bandwaggon.
            tasty

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              #7
              Originally posted by jflip2002 View Post
              That is why Im responsible enough to not vote...
              Well, that's a great attitude. I guess you'll be responsible enough not to bitch when things go south, right?
              If political activity on this board is any indication, I think that statement is a copout, and, in fact, IS THE VERY REASON we are in these kind of situations.
              Slicktop City!

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                #8
                I know quite a few Republicans that are frightened at the prospect of Palin possibly becoming president if something unfortunate were to happen to McCain.

                On that note, did anyone see her interview with Katie Couric(sp?)?
                Originally posted by Gruelius
                and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                  #9
                  Is that so? Ok, so you would rather have me go and vote for whoever I like? Someone I know nothing about, besides a snap judgement that I have? If I were educated on the situation, then Id vote. Im not, so I will leave it to those who ARE educated.

                  So you would rather have people not knowing what theyre voting for voting, rather than just the educated? Maybe THAT is the fucking problem. Idiots are encouraged to vote as they exit their local walmart or target, though they dont know shit. Yes its our RIGHT to vote. Though its not our REQUIREMENT to vote. I chose to leave it to those who know what theyre doing... and for the record, Ive never bitched about whats happened. I dont vote, so then I dont have the right to complain.
                  Originally posted by blunt
                  i would jerk larry king off while tonging jflips ass if h0lmes would blow his head off

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Charlie View Post
                    Middle America is going to have a very hard time voting for a black guy named "Barack Hussein Obama".

                    Just prodding that 800 lb gorilla.

                    -Charlie
                    I heart you.

                    Plus, If you study the demographics, you would understand that America has about 50 bazillion old people. When they vote, the come out in droves. They'll vote for McCain, an established war vet, not Barack, the frequently absent, first term senator. Maybe they havent blogged McCain into fame, but they have just as much voting power as the next Obama toting hippie next door.

                    Unless Obama can get his followers to text in their votes, I smell a shitload of fail.

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                      #11
                      You guys know there is a black woman running for prez?

                      Who says there are only two choices?

                      Vote Smart provides free, factual, unbiased information on candidates and elected officials to all Americans.

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                        #12
                        Im going to write my own name on the ballot. At least I can say I voted.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by h0lmes View Post
                          Im going to write my own name on the ballot. At least I can say I voted for someone more unfit for the position than the candidates running.

                          fixed ;)
                          sigpic

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                            #14
                            It'll be a repeat of 2004, too close to call with MSN calling Obama the winner, being wrong and having Old Man Balls/GILF win by small percentage. Internetz will blow up with liberal conspiracies and prius owners will have to buy new "funny/cute/smart" bumper stickers
                            1985 BMW 325e
                            1997 BMW M3/4/5
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                              #15
                              a persons race should not be a factor. its 2008, jesus christ. we dont need that shit. i'm no where near being racist, but for my 18 years of living..i just think its bs to discriminate against someone just because of their skin color.
                              M Coupe

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