bill Nye plays the Devil's advocate with this stunning analysis

[TwoJ's]

Believe in nothing other than the fact that you don't know shit until science proves otherwise. Because that is where proof comes from.

Careful there, much of the science we practice does not deal with fact or proof; simply the inability to disprove.

[s0urce]

Careful there, much of the science we practice does not deal with fact or proof; simply the inability to disprove.

I agree.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Again, you're being ignorant and making assumptions. You're absolutely wrong about a "religion of man". I said NO RELIGION. The only beliefs we have should be based on what we DO KNOW. Not what we can fathom or guess on.

We should all believe in what has been proven and what is now fact. We should not let ANY tax exempt organization take advantage of us by preying on our doubts. That is just wrong.

If we don't know what's at the center of the earth then fine, believe in the fact that you do not know what is there.

Same goes for god. Believe in the fact that there is no proof that he exists. Believe in the fact that there are infinite possibilities out there and not a single one of them deserves any more attention than the next due to the lack of substantial proof.

Believe in nothing other than the fact that you don't know shit until science proves otherwise. Because that is where proof comes from.

Ahh. I guess I didn't properly elaborate my statement, but the bible (that book of stories/tales) uses a word translated in the KJV as "peace". In the original Hebrew text, that word was translated as "cessation of againstness" being something God gives you in trade for simply your faith in him. There is no requirement on sin, or, don't, sin, cheat, or don't cheat, adulterate, or, don't adulterate.

Believe in the fact that there is no proof that he exists.

Thats what I do, and, thats where the equation is solved that the inability to disprove = faith.

[eric (^__^)]

Just because something is a profound experience for one person, it does not discredit their experience if the guy standing next to them thought it was a blathering event.

does it discredit the guy who thought it was blather?

[s0urce]

You speak the words of the Antichrist.

The antichrist as outlined by who? The Bible? Isn't that odd? Isn't the first commandment of the 10 also quite odd? :hitler:

[eric (^__^)]

I agree.

this does not require an agreement!

that's the beauty of it!

[TwoJ's]

Okay, just out of curiousity, what makes you have faith in a Christian God? Why aren't you jewish or islamic or buddhist? Simply because of where you ended up on this earth, and whom you were raised by? What on earth makes you have faith in Christianity's version over any other?

I'd really like to know this, I've always been curious. As of now, I can't think of a rational answer to that question.

[Farbin Kaiber]

The antichrist as outlined by who? The Bible? Isn't that odd? Isn't the first commandment of the 10 also quite odd? :hitler:

The funny thing is, there are actually a whole book of the comandments, those ten are just the ones that the "stories" touch on. Look up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviticus

there is a whole gaggle of laws to follow, that are followable, thats why they were placed on the people was because f the impossibility to follow them. That's why Christians believe that Jesus was sent to follow the law perfectly (because he was Man-God, God-man) and the faith in him/his work, are the new keys to the door.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Okay, just out of curiousity, what makes you have faith in a Christian God? Why aren't you jewish or islamic or buddhist? Simply because of where you ended up on this earth, and whom you were raised by? What on earth makes you have faith in Christianity's version over any other?

I'd really like to know this, I've always been curious. As of now, I can't think of a rational answer to that question.

Because, Jesus is the only human man, ever to claim divinity, others had claimed to have been spoken to by a God, but Jesus was the first/only to religious figure to have stated he was of god.

Buddha, spoken to.
Muhammad, spoken to.
Joseph Smith, Jr., spoken to, given glasses and plates
Nakayama Miki, spoke to, used as a"microphone of god"


Jesus, born of man, and of god. Carried the messages of his father.

See the difference?

[Turf1600]

Okay, just out of curiousity, what makes you have faith in a Christian God? Why aren't you jewish or islamic or buddhist? Simply because of where you ended up on this earth, and whom you were raised by? What on earth makes you have faith in Christianity's version over any other?

I'd really like to know this, I've always been curious. As of now, I can't think of a rational answer to that question.

Kind of how I feel. It reminds me of a poll they once took in a class I had when I was a kid. They asked which president they wanted to win: Bush SR or Clinton. Their answers had nothing to do with their beliefs - rather the opinions of their parents. I think most people just never grow out of it.

[Turf1600]

Because, Jesus is the only human man, ever to claim divinity, others had claimed to have been spoken to by a God, but Jesus was the first/only to religious figure to have stated he was of god.

Buddha, spoken to.
Muhammad, spoken to.
Joseph Smith, Jr., spoken to, given glasses and plates
Nakayama Miki, spoke to, used as a"microphone of god"


Jesus, born of man, and of god. Carried the messages of his father.

See the difference?

Yes I do - verbage.

[eric (^__^)]

does it discredit the guy who thought it was blather?

[Farbin Kaiber]

Yes I do - verbage.

True, to those who don't believe, and the funny thing is, the bible says in it's text that it speaks in parables, and manners to confuse those that are not meant to understand.

I guess it really is a physical entity, that spiritual side some of us have.

BTW, Turf. My parents were Catholic, and I left organized religion, and found my own way spiritually, then all my own findings in myself, had founded understanding in "alternative" Christian faith, leaving the horrors of the catholic beat down behind me, And, I have a better relationship then I did when someone was making me go.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Nope, but I don't found my faith on others opinions, just what I feel. So , it really does not matter what the blathering guy thinks, his relationship is his onw issue, I don't worry myself with that.

[s0urce]

Because, Jesus is the only human man, ever to claim divinity, others had claimed to have been spoken to by a God, but Jesus was the first/only to religious figure to have stated he was of god.

Buddha, spoken to.
Muhammad, spoken to.
Joseph Smith, Jr., spoken to, given glasses and plates
Nakayama Miki, spoke to, used as a"microphone of god"


Jesus, born of man, and of god. Carried the messages of his father.

See the difference?

WRONG. Jesus Christ just so happens to be the most recent version of this story.

Do some research, look further back. Many other figures present themselves with the same story. Born of a virgin, performed miracles, crucified, resurrected.

This is sheer ignorance. Do you believe in anyone that claims to be god?

What about all of these guys? Oh wait, you probably just never heard about them.

Chrishna of Hindostan
Budha Sakia of India
Salivahana of Bermuda
Zulis, or Zhule, Also Osiris and Orus of Egypt.
Odin of the Scandinavians
Crite of Chaldea
Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia
Baal and Taut, "The only Begotten of God", of Phoenecia
Indra of Tibet
Bali of Afghanistan
Jao of Nepal
Wittoba of the Bilingonese
Thammuz of Syria
Atys of Phrygia
Xamolxis of Thrace
Zoar of the Bonzes
Adad of Assyria
Deva Tat, and Sammonocadam of Siam
Alcides of Thebes
Mikado of the Sintoos
Beddru of Japan
Hesus or Eros, and Bremrillah, of the Druids
Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls
Cadmus of Greece
Hil and Feta of the Mandaites.
Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico.
Universal Monarch of the Sibyls.
Ischy of the island of Formosa
Divine Teacher of Plato
Holy one of Xaca.
Fohi and Tien of CHina
Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece
Ixion and Quirinus of Rome
Prometheus of Caucasus

This will help you get the ball moving. Just food for thought. DO NOT take everything from this video for face value, do some research yourself. Look up the facts that this video presents yourself.