The final "Who are you going to vote for" poll

[BobombETA]

That aint shit really. Think of the liability of that person that made $100 million. What he had to take on to produce a paycheck like that. Something that big, a lawsuit could land him in jail or bankrupt. Being a company that was able to produce him that much. (Much less having stock holders vote him out based on performance) Your still young and see $10 million as a huge number. In today's life, that does not even buy you a condo in NYC or a Gulfstream jet. They work hard to obtain things such as these. In doing so employ people like you to manufacture these high dollar things. Be happy for them, they are the ones that create the dreams we all want!


On your tax curve of earning $100 million and being taxed $90 million -----

That would mean that, that person would work 1.2 months to earn $9.996 million (165 hours at a 40 hour work week!)

AND work 10.8 months to hand it over to the Government! (1728 hours with a 40 hour work week)

No man in the world is going to put almost 3/4 of a year into a job just to hand it over to Big Government!

10,000,000 * .03 = $300,000 a year in interest. You would live very comfortably off of that. That is enough for 5 families to live off of...

[Vedubin01]

The little you get? Even if someone making 100 million was taxed 90% they would still have 10 million. 10 million freaking dollars is enough for me to retire, right now, at 21.

That aint shit really. Think of the liability of that person that made $100 million. What he had to take on to produce a paycheck like that. Something that big, a lawsuit could land him in jail or bankrupt. Being a company that was able to produce him that much. (Much less having stock holders vote him out based on performance) Your still young and see $10 million as a huge number. In today's life, that does not even buy you a condo in NYC or a Gulfstream jet. They work hard to obtain things such as these. In doing so employ people like you to manufacture these high dollar things. Be happy for them, they are the ones that create the dreams we all want!


On your tax curve of earning $100 million and being taxed $90 million -----

That would mean that, that person would work 1.2 months to earn $9.996 million (165 hours at a 40 hour work week!)

AND work 10.8 months to hand it over to the Government! (1728 hours with a 40 hour work week)

No man in the world is going to put almost 3/4 of a year into a job just to hand it over to Big Government!

[DarkWing6]

Dude Derek, if you make less than 111k a year, Obama's tax cuts will benefit you more than McCain's. Obama is only raising taxes for those that make over 111k. Considering Obama makes over 111k, he IS putting his money where his mouth is.

People need to vote objectively rather than subjectively. That is the way I did it. I ignored all the news and anybody that tried to feed me BS. Then I went online and found this nifty article right here. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/fla...ionprimer.html and picked who I was voting for.

First of all...this is not about ME. That would be selfishness. I am in this for what is right for our country, for our economy, and according to the Constitution. (edit) And in the end the purchasing power of my dollar that I do keep will be much stronger if you are not taxing the rich as much as you can. Business built this country and it is what makes this country great. You discourage that and you will have problems. Why should I work hard if Obama will just hand it to me?

Look at Obama's PERSONAL giving record. It is terrible. Does he really care about the sick, needy, and poor? McCain has given his life to this country and I don't doubt that he would do it as the President. I have strong concerns about where Obama would like to take things.

Its the idea, only about 10 percent pay about 90 percent of the tax revenue. Our corporate tax is 2nd in the world for being the highest. Obama wants to even raise it more. There are always going a cast system per say. There will always be poor and there will always be the rich. But whats the point in taxing more the higher you go. They earned it! They take the risk of being sued, the burdens of making sure their employees get paid. Unless you ever ever worked for yourself. "1099" you expect a paycheck for working. Those on top worry if they are ever going to get paid for their work and liablity they carry. Try starting your own business and wonder if your customer is ever going to pay you, will you have enough money to stay open, worry that your employee might do something that could send you into a lawsuit... etc! I urge everyone to try to open something one day... then think of how hard you had to work to keep the little you get after everything you pay out.

The little you get? Even if someone making 100 million was taxed 90% they would still have 10 million. 10 million freaking dollars is enough for me to retire, right now, at 21.

[Vedubin01]

Its the idea, only about 10 percent pay about 90 percent of the tax revenue. Our corporate tax is 2nd in the world for being the highest. Obama wants to even raise it more. There are always going a cast system per say. There will always be poor and there will always be the rich. But whats the point in taxing more the higher you go. They earned it! They take the risk of being sued, the burdens of making sure their employees get paid. Unless you ever ever worked for yourself. "1099" you expect a paycheck for working. Those on top worry if they are ever going to get paid for their work and liablity they carry. Try starting your own business and wonder if your customer is ever going to pay you, will you have enough money to stay open, worry that your employee might do something that could send you into a lawsuit... etc! I urge everyone to try to open something one day... then think of how hard you had to work to keep the little you get after everything you pay out.

Always remember under Obama's plan, it does not take in account the Bush tax cut that you will no longer get as of 2009. Factor that in and you get nothing!

The problem with the Obama tax plan is it taxes the higher tax brackets and benefits the most people that end up not owing taxes. Thus giving them a check every year. Most of those people will be happy and vote for Obama. But dont understand it keeps them from ever striving to move up and allowing Government to continue to hold control. Government was never ment to control its people. And the princible behind the Obama tax program sucks. I do not want anyone elses tax money to benifit me or my family, nor do I want my hard earned money to be given to those that do not work for it!

So what you're saying is that a yearly check for a few hundred bucks is going to remove all incentive for people? Give me a break man.

Tax rates absolutely need to be higher the farther you go up the bracket. Granted, I believe they should be fairly low across the board. You can't expect someone that makes 20k a year to pay the same rates as someone that makes 20 million. 5k a year in taxes for someone that makes 20k is a lot more than 5mil a year for someone that makes 20 million. A gallon of milk costs the same whether you are dirt poor or a multimillionaire.

Also, Obama will only eliminate Bush's tax cuts for those that make over 250k.

[Vedubin01]

Always remember under Obama's plan, it does not take in account the Bush tax cut that you will no longer get as of 2009. Factor that in and you get nothing!

The problem with the Obama tax plan is it taxes the higher tax brackets and benefits the most people that end up not owing taxes. Thus giving them a check every year. Most of those people will be happy and vote for Obama. But dont understand it keeps them from ever striving to move up and allowing Government to continue to hold control. Government was never ment to control its people. And the princible behind the Obama tax program sucks. I do not want anyone elses tax money to benifit me or my family, nor do I want my hard earned money to be given to those that do not work for it!

That is a lot coming from the canidates with terrible records of giving.



I will say this again. Put your money where your mouth is Obama...NOT MINE! I give my money and now you want to give mine too? What about yours? Actions speak louder than words.

Dude Derek, if you make less than 111k a year, Obama's tax cuts will benefit you more than McCain's. Obama is only raising taxes for those that make over 111k. Considering Obama makes over 111k, he IS putting his money where his mouth is.

People need to vote objectively rather than subjectively. That is the way I did it. I ignored all the news and anybody that tried to feed me BS. Then I went online and found this nifty article right here. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/fla...ionprimer.html and picked who I was voting for.

[drift]

Sounds like most people who vote for McCain feel insecure about winning the race, more than Obama's voters.

[Vedubin01]

[deutschman]

the black one

[blunttech]

hey steve

hi joo

[Vedubin01]

Observation: The Obama's supporters ITT are all sheep that are following their Obamessiah.

Fixed it for ya!

[Mystikal]

Observation: The McCain supporters ITT are becoming just as angry and uncomposed as he is.

[DarkWing6]

Obama's New Attack on Those Who Don't Want Higher Taxes: ‘Selfishness’



Mr Obama, Suck a dick!

That is a lot coming from the canidates with terrible records of giving.



I will say this again. Put your money where your mouth is Obama...NOT MINE! I give my money and now you want to give mine too? What about yours? Actions speak louder than words.