No one cares about his aunt, they care that Mr. Spread the Wealth's own aunt is living in squalor. And the fact that she lives here illegally while her nephew runs for President.
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Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Postthank god.
Who the fuck cares what Obama's Aunt is doing? What does it have to do with him, or the campaign, or anything?
The answer is: Nothing.
This is just more of Vedubins' pathetic fear mongering and hate-filled rhetoric. He'll literally pick up on anything in the world that makes liberals look bad and run crazy with it (while ignoring every conservative scandal, of course). What he doesn't realize is that it makes him look like a desperate, fearful racist willing to sink the the lowest of low depths to slander anyone who he disagrees with.
you got it rite +1
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Originally posted by Ral View PostNo one cares about his aunt, they care that Mr. Spread the Wealth's own aunt is living in squalor. And the fact that she lives here illegally while her nephew runs for President.
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no hate filled rhetoric!
BTW for someone that is taking 25 hours in school and working 40 hours a week you sure have tons of time to post your nonsense
Originally posted by CorvallisBMWI have 25 credits if straight engineering classes this term, 5 out of 7 are 400 level senior classes too. Plus senior project design. I spend roughly 12-16 hours a day on campus working, every day of the week.
I feel your pain.Last edited by Vedubin01; 11-01-2008, 12:23 PM.Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!
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Originally posted by Ral View PostNo one cares about his aunt, they care that Mr. Spread the Wealth's own aunt is living in squalor. And the fact that she lives here illegally while her nephew runs for President.
Of course, if he gave her money and a place to live he'd be accused of being soft on illegal immigration and guilty of throwing money at someone who may not deserve it. IOW, acting liberal.
But, since he left her alone and let her be personally accountable for her status, he's still bad?
Come on guys, you can't have it both ways.
And speedhop, if you can, in a concise and lucid fashion, describe how you have come to the conclusion that somehow McCain/Palin are more ready and able to lead the country than Sen. Obama, I welcome it.
I have read the books both candidates have written. I have spent hours sifting through the rhetoric looking for clues past what the extremely partisan popular media and blogs have to offer. I have come to the conclusion that were this 2000, McCain would likely have gotten my vote. However, Sen. Obama's intellectual curiosity, knowledge of American history and desire to make America great again have won me over. I like the idea that we can again thrive through programs that let the middle and lower classes keep more of their money while those that have profited from outsourcing America's jobs become more accountable. That is what he means by "redistribute the wealth", in spite of the kneejerk idiots who say "I ain't gonna work no more overtime, cuz he's just gonna take mah money". The GOP has pandered to poor, barely engaged people with scare tactics. And following someone largely because they've scared you is a possible sign of ignorance.
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You all know McCain has pulled back within the margin of error, right? And instead of bashing conservatives, answer the questions. Make excuses, I don't care. I want to hear a differing opinion, or a possible explanation for what I see as a very minor, but noticeable, item. Does Obama's aunt matter in the slightest? not in the least. Does it matter that someone wants to help the poor people with the Nation's money but won't help his close family? (He refers to her very warmly in his memoir.) yes. It does. A very little bit. And I am well aware that this makes me sound like an Obama hater, but this is why I'd like an answer;other people have differing viewpoints that I might not see. So, please give me a reasonable explanation.
everything matters, but usually a very slight amount. I'm more concerned with trends that simple factoids, and the (grossly overblown) accusations against Obama show someone different from what he claims to be.
And Oldie, I am with you on one thing: I really, really wish it was the McCain of 2000 that was running. Or would have won over Bush.
As to your comments on his Aunt: I fully support helping those that can't help themselves. Family is paramount in that, I will never criticize someone for helping the poor. But when someone uses the promise that he will do so to win an election, then shows no history of helping someone in private life, I question his motives. People should help other people, not the government. If he was to give tax incentives for donating money to charity, service in a soup kitchen, etc. (and I know there are a few out there currently) I would be wholeheartedly behind that. But I will choose how my money gets spent, not the people clamoring for it.
last edit: great post Speedhop. I don't necessarily agree, but it was well thought out and was not personal. I'm glad someone finally explained why they're voting for Obama. Time to go work on my car.Last edited by Ral; 11-01-2008, 12:31 PM.sigpic89 M3
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Originally posted by RalDoes it matter that someone wants to help the poor people with the Nation's money but won't help his close family? (He refers to her very warmly in his memoir.) yes. It does. A very little bit.
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"SHE" is illegal and not welcome here in the United States. Taking advantage of the US tax payer. What is so hard to understand. Fuck that bitch and send her back!Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!
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Originally posted by Vedubin01 View Post"SHE" is illegal and not welcome here in the United States. Taking advantage of the US tax payer. What is so hard to understand. Fuck that bitch and send her back!
Seriously, tell me exactly what you would like obama to do in this situation.The Keystone Killers
Originally posted by CabrioletWith 73k+ post, you'd think he'd have learned a little about life.
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Originally posted by Radiocammbodia View PostSo if he helps her he is aiding a fugitive. If he doesn't help her he is cold and uncaring. What would you like him to do, report her himself?
Seriously, tell me exactly what you would like obama to do in this situation.sigpic89 M3
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Originally posted by red View PostYour side sounds more like Hitler.Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!
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Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View PostThis must be part of that 'compasionate conservatism' I keep hearing about.
The law is the law is the law, it does not and is not suppose to bend for anyone!
I am not compassionate, I am fair!Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!
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