What's with all the e28's?

[BDK]

Fantastic. I'm sure plenty of us here know that Mister Korman is a very experienced driver, but I think we were discussing E34's actually. The car to which you are referring was Ray's track-prepared E34. It had a Korman Stage 1 S50, nearly $8k in suspension work (and easily the firmest E34 I have ever been in,) E34 M5 front brakes, a rebuilt 3.64 LSD with 50% locking, Hoosier track tires, etc. etc.

I'll venture a guess that his car was far, far different than that other guy's in the auto-x sig picture. Sure, it should have impressed you, it should have blown you away, he had craploads invested in that car. The "it's not the car, it's the driver" statement is a beaten horse and is somewhat irrelevant in what we were talking about. Like I said Korman is a very experienced driver, but I imagine you were equally impressed by the E34 that had the tens of thousands sunk into it.

WTF, Irrelevant?
I don't think so...when did a coil over set cost $8K, brake upgrade is typical, track tires do help...
track prepared, maybe maybe not but it was his DD too, it still had comfort seats and AC in it and regular seat belts too...no cage, no lightening of the chassis ect...
it had mods but every other car on that track had mods that day so what is your point???
Yes, we were talking about e34's and the statement that they weren't tossable and I made the point that in the right hands they can be...

your distaste for Korman doesn't change the car or the point I made...

DECAF drink DECAF.....

[Rocla]

Should I start exporting e28 bumpers from here?

[TDE30]

I had the pleasure of riding with Ray Korman in his S50 525 E34 at VIR and he tossed it around like an e30M3...

it's not the car,
it's the driver,
No Offense to you Trey or the guys post below you, but Ray, even at his age, can outdrive just about anyone...
we past everyone on the track that day and we past them anywhere he wanted to...
like the climbing, blind S's at VIR, actually past 2 cars before we were thru them...
I had a new opinion of the E34 that day and realized that I am not the driver I thought I was...

Fantastic. I'm sure plenty of us here know that Mister Korman is a very experienced driver, but I think we were discussing E34's actually. The car to which you are referring was Ray's track-prepared E34. It had a Korman Stage 1 S50, nearly $8k in suspension work (and easily the firmest E34 I have ever been in,) E34 M5 front brakes, a rebuilt 3.64 LSD with 50% locking, Hoosier track tires, etc. etc.

I'll venture a guess that his car was far, far different than that other guy's in the auto-x sig picture. Sure, it should have impressed you, it should have blown you away, he had craploads invested in that car. The "it's not the car, it's the driver" statement is a beaten horse and is somewhat irrelevant in what we were talking about. Like I said Korman is a very experienced driver, but I imagine you were equally impressed by the E34 that had the tens of thousands sunk into it.

[BDK]

E34's look exactly like larger E30's, so I don't understand your rationale by saying they are ugly.

E34's are also the executive saloon cars of their day, they weren't made to be tossed around an auto-x course. Not to say they can't be, but you make them seem like obese pigs. They're heavy in some respects until you realize they seat four very comfortably, have adequate trunk space, and a mild amount of technology/comforts.

I had the pleasure of riding with Ray Korman in his S50 525 E34 at VIR and he tossed it around like an e30M3...

it's not the car,
it's the driver,
No Offense to you Trey or the guys post below you, but Ray, even at his age, can outdrive just about anyone...
we past everyone on the track that day and we past them anywhere he wanted to...
like the climbing, blind S's at VIR, actually past 2 cars before we were thru them...
I had a new opinion of the E34 that day and realized that I am not the driver I thought I was...

[dashboardmonkey]

I like the way E28s look, tuck them DBs tho.

[ldsbeaker]

e28s are ugly.

with the diving boards.....

Fixed, and motherfuckin' werd.

[napabavarian]

I still want an e34 touring with an M5 V8 ans a 6 speed 8)

[bimmer_E30]

e28s are ugly.

with the driving boards.....

[Danny]

That's great Daniel.

Merry fucking Christmas.

Thanks!

You too :D

[TDE30]

I like the way e30s look.

That's great Daniel.

Merry fucking Christmas.

[Danny]

I like the way e30s look.

[Jb325is]

E34's look exactly like larger E30's, so I don't understand your rationale by saying they are ugly.

E34's are also the executive saloon cars of their day, they weren't made to be tossed around an auto-x course. Not to say they can't be, but you make them seem like obese pigs. They're heavy in some respects until you realize they seat four very comfortably, have adequate trunk space, and a mild amount of technology/comforts.

No way, the proportions are much different. They look SIMILAR from the front, I'll give you that. IMO the side profile and rear end are much better looking on the e34. You don't have to preach to me about the e34, believe me. I was exagerrating a little on the weight and I meant it more as relative to eachother.. My 535 does everything I've wanted it to, I'm just saying its never going to be as tossable or fun to drive as the e30.

[napabavarian]

The e28 is more raw, more classical european, the e34 is a bit of a box to me, it just dosn't seem to flow- something about the doors, e28 looks funny with diving boards, but clean with euro bumpers...

[TDE30]

Wow I thought this thread would've been much worse. To me e34's are fucking beautiful, but fat.. e30's are ugly but the better driver. The e28 is halfway between the two.. Why not have all 3? Those Alpine m5's posted are amazing...

E34's look exactly like larger E30's, so I don't understand your rationale by saying they are ugly.

E34's are also the executive saloon cars of their day, they weren't made to be tossed around an auto-x course. Not to say they can't be, but you make them seem like obese pigs. They're heavy in some respects until you realize they seat four very comfortably, have adequate trunk space, and a mild amount of technology/comforts.

[napabavarian]

...they can't afford a nice new BMW, so they talk shit about said newer BMW's and buy an old POS e28...

qft, some of us actually like old BMWs better, 135i convertible being the exception...