Any questions about Scientology??

[Farbin Kaiber]

Fair Game on Non-Members (critics)

"The homes, property, places and abodes of persons who have been active in attempting to: suppress Scientology or Scientologists are all beyond any protection of Scientology Ethics, unless absolved by later Ethics or an amnesty ... this Policy Letter extends to suppressive non-Scientology wives and husbands and parents, or other family members or hostile groups or even close friends."

So, you become an enemy...

ENEMY — SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.


Everyone out there, don't get R2-45'ed.

[daniel]

multi-quote is your friend. but please continue.

[joshh]

Why did you leave? I don't know enough about it but from what I know I lost respect for Tom Cruise and John Travolta.....

I left because they treat their staff like shit. Sea Org members (the core staff of Scientology) get paid $50.00 a week and work 90+ hours a week. They do get their food and berthing covered though. It's not great but barely acceptable...in many cases not acceptable.
Plus being screamed at a lot is a norm in the Sea org. There's quiet a bit more but it's long and you'd have to know about Scientology some to understand without me explaining it.
Then I read the Xenu story which they keep secret from Scientologists till they pay enough to get to that level.
They litigate like crazy and for stupid shit. They wont just be a church. They have to attack all their critics.
Tom is finally coming to his senses.

Edit, staff members don't get medical care or dental care unless they are in an emergency situation either.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Do you know any Billion Year Contract signers?

[Farbin Kaiber]

How did anyone accept the DC-8's?

[joshh]

Why doesn't Scientology recognize autism? Do they have their own "doctors"?

Ah, yes another lie Tommy Davis (Scientology PR boy) put out to the general public. They are against ANYTHING psychiatric. Hubbard went on and on about how bad Psychiatry is. Scientologists follow his every word. Even though they have no solution for mental illness they claim "all" Psychiatry is evil and brutal.
There are some Scientologists that are doctors. But they still don't envolve themselves in anything Psychiatric.
They do not believe in mental illness. They consider it a physical problem. And a spiritual problem.

Useful data for self searching... (not auditing)

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Scientology

Yhis is the Suppressive Person Manual

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Scientology_cult:_Potential_Trouble_Source_and_Suppressive_Person_manual%2C_1986

We have had our talks via PM in the past about this subject. Just one question I didn't ask/resolve with you. Had you been in long enough to have been around at the last major leadership change, and did you see the changes from before to when you left?

I got there right after the change. From everything I heard and have read it was a better organization before the change. But regaurdless Hubbard has his policy set in stone.

is it right that you have to eat the placenta after your child was born?

Nothing to do with Scientology.

all you need to do to understand Scientology is watch the stargate movie. lol
no. just kidding. although the tv show and the movie are based on the same book that Scientology is based on.

how do you become a Scientologist, and how do Scientologists find and recruit new members? my uncle went into one of the churches ones and told me a story that was hard to believe about how they put him in a room and tried to brain wash him through some interrogation processes/methods.
we have a huge Scientology church here in SF.

Stargate isn't the same although at the upper levels of Scientology you find out the Xenu story.
You become a Scientologists just like you do any other religion. You read, believe in, and apply the workings (in thise case) of Hubbard.
Their biggest effort (doesn't work very well) to recruit is their stress test and the personality test. They do these outside of most of the churche buildings.
Was your uncle part of the church for some time?
Scientology in SF isn't very big really. They only have one church and if their lucky 1000 members.

A. How accurate is South Park's depiction of Scientology?

B. Why did you, and why do people continue to, join a religion based on the writings of a science-fiction novelist?

C. once i prank called a series of scientology centers, and said that i had been tripping on acid, and L. Ron Hubbard came to me in my trip and told me to become a scientologist. I got varied responses, ranging from immediate hang-ups to people thinking that was a legitimate reason to join the church. How do you think the church would respond if someone tried to actually join the church based on a story like that?

I find scientology completely ridiculous, but am curious about the people who do it. thanks for being willing to answer questions.

It's actually fairly accurate.
B. I was born into Scientology. People don't join very often. Scientology bosts 8 million (yeah right!) members but in reality it's closer to 55,000 worldwide. New members are rare. Most members now come from being born into it.

C. It wouldn't really work, but then again they are desperate for members. Depends on who it is you talk to. Most would think you really are on acid. Doing acid makes you an "illegal Pre Clear". They can't audit you.

this doesnt surprise me in the least

If it were possible, I'd buy you some class.

[blunttech]

Ah, yes another lie Tommy Davis (Scientology PR boy) put out to the general public. They are against ANYTHING psychiatric. Hubbard went on and on about how bad Psychiatry is. Scientologists follow his every word. Even though they have no solution for mental illness they claim "all" Psychiatry is evil and brutal.
There are some Scientologists that are doctors. But they still don't envolve themselves in anything Psychiatric.
They do not believe in mental illness. They consider it a physical problem. And a spiritual problem.







I got there right after the change. From everything I heard and have read it was a better organization before the change. But regaurdless Hubbard has his policy set in stone.





Nothing to do with Scientology.






Stargate isn't the same although at the upper levels of Scientology you find out the Xenu story.
You become a Scientologists just like you do any other religion. You read, believe in, and apply the workings (in thise case) of Hubbard.
Their biggest effort (doesn't work very well) to recruit is their stress test and the personality test. They do these outside of most of the churche buildings.
Was your uncle part of the church for some time?
Scientology in SF isn't very big really. They only have one church and if their lucky 1000 members.






It's actually fairly accurate.
B. I was born into Scientology. People don't join very often. Scientology bosts 8 million (yeah right!) members but in reality it's closer to 55,000 worldwide. New members are rare. Most members now come from being born into it.

C. It wouldn't really work, but then again they are desperate for members. Depends on who it is you talk to. Most would think you really are on acid. Doing acid makes you an "illegal Pre Clear". They can't audit you.






If it were possible, I'd buy you some class.

if it were possible id buy you some self worth and a spine. you are a weak fuck and turn to religious nutjobs like Lron hubbard to try to find whats lacking in your pathetic life. you are the same as a moonie. i hope the fact that you "got out" is a good sign but i doubt it

[joshh]

multi-quote is your friend. but please continue.

Done.

Do you know any Billion Year Contract signers?

Yeah, me. Scientologists believe in next lives. It's literal within the church but they try to make the contract seem like a simple bond and not serious to the normal world.
I was in the Sea Org for several years.

How did anyone accept the DC-8's?

They keep this shit secret. Until you pay your way to that point you don't know about it.
I have since read the stuff on the net about it. Sea org members are supposed to get free Scientology services but rearly ever do they really.

[joshh]

if it were possible id buy you some self worth and a spine. you are a weak fuck and turn to religious nutjobs like Lron hubbard to try to find whats lacking in your pathetic life. you are the same as a moonie. i hope the fact that you "got out" is a good sign but i doubt it

LOL, reading owns you, I was born into it. Don't worry Blunt, I still think you're a dick. Your reputation is safe with me.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Yeah, me. Scientologists believe in next lives. It's literal within the church but they try to make the contract seem like a simple bond and not serious to the normal world.
I was in the Sea Org for several years.
They keep this shit secret. Until you pay your way to that point you don't know about it.
I have since read the stuff on the net about it. Sea org members are supposed to get free Scientology services but rearly ever do they really.

Thanks, you do know I'm gonna have about a hundred more questions by the time this day ends.

(You did Sea Org on land I assume)

[blunttech]

LOL, reading owns you, I was born into it. Don't worry Blunt, I still think you're a dick. Your reputation is safe with me.

thanks honey but i already realized you were born a loser. thanks for the confirmation though. please carry on with your public service post educating us all on what comprises a true loser

[joshh]

Thanks, you do know I'm gonna have about a hundred more questions by the time this day ends.

(You did Sea Org on land I assume)

LMAO at your R2 comment. You're getting the idea.

Yeah, the only Sea Org now on the actaul sea is the Freewinds ship. It mostly services the highest level of Scientology OTVIII (Operating Thetan).
I worked in several different locations.
I'll answer every question you have.

[joshh]

thanks honey but i already realized you were born a loser. thanks for the confirmation though. please carry on with your public service post educating us all on what comprises a true loser

Working on it lover boy.

[blunttech]

I'll answer every question you have.

why are you a nozzle?

[Farbin Kaiber]

Did you ever see a Cleared Theta Clear make a universe on a desk or something? (that one is kinda a joke)