The Economy Part III

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  • uofom3
    R3V Elite
    • Jan 2004
    • 5392

    #46
    It makes me giggle when people start buying gold. That's the ultimate perma-bear "safe play". Stocks out perform any other asset class over the long term. Investors who don't have the stomach for this shit are the ones who lose in the long term.
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    • rwh11385
      lance_entities
      • Oct 2003
      • 18403

      #47
      Your entire rant was about money in failing banks...Oh wait. A little thing called FDIC
      Rant about money in the stock market... no reason to pull money out when its low, should invest long term, and if you are nearing retirement you money out to be in low-risk, steady growth.
      Getting your money back pennies on the dollar... Did you ever listen to what you say? Do you really believe this?

      It's your choice what to do with your money, but you sound like an absolute nutjob.


      Originally posted by uofom3
      Stocks out perform any other asset class over the long term. Investors who don't have the stomach for this shit are the ones who lose in the long term.
      +1

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      • rwh11385
        lance_entities
        • Oct 2003
        • 18403

        #48
        Originally posted by mrsleeve
        Incentives to big business to keep good paying jobs here or bring them back to our country, namely manufacturing
        Hahahaha. Well, there's plenty of high quality manufacturing here still because it requires high skill. We cannot compete with paying min wage to unskilled workers, but China cannot produce a lot of things reliability that we can. So you are playing a violin to people who don't seek to educate and improve themselves and are pissed companies can't pay them $7 an hour to run a sewing machine here while paying high corporate tax.

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        • DCColegrove
          Banned
          • Dec 2007
          • 2748

          #49
          ^^^^

          Whistling in the dark...

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          • mrsleeve
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Mar 2005
            • 16385

            #50
            Originally posted by rwh11385
            Your entire rant was about money in failing banks...Oh wait. A little thing called FDIC
            Rant about money in the stock market... no reason to pull money out when its low, should invest long term, and if you are nearing retirement you money out to be in low-risk, steady growth.
            Getting your money back pennies on the dollar... Did you ever listen to what you say? Do you really believe this?

            It's your choice what to do with your money, but you sound like an absolute nutjob.



            +1

            Where did I say I was pulling money I have in out???? Most of my investments are doing just as good as they were 2 years ago. I will let it go and keep putting some into it. Just doing something different to cover all bases whats wrong with that?? How is that foolish?????? Its a long term investment that I will have for a long time.

            Pennies on the dollar yeah when and if the the bottom comes out of it and my pensions go worthless and have to be picked up by the govt we get pennies on the dollar of their value. 2 if we have lots of large banks fail and we just print billions to replace it whats that going do to the over all value of the dollar???????

            DO you guys really belive that the economy will be looking better in 6 months???? Come on we have had massive layoffs in the last 3 months, when these people run out of Unemployment and Credit on their cards and then they start to default it will be just like the mortgage debacle but much worse an drug us further into the mud. Our new Head monkey is talking 5 trillion in bailout funds, Where the fuck is that going to come from?????
            What happens when the GOVT. cant make the interest payment on all this debt that we are putting up on the backs of our children??????

            Look You do what you want I will do what I want and hopefully we will all come out smelling like roses in the end
            Originally posted by Fusion
            If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
            The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


            The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

            Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
            William Pitt-

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            • Money$hit
              Banned
              • Mar 2008
              • 1604

              #51
              Manufacturing is a shrinking sector. The United States is moving toward a service based economy versus production of goods. Manufacturing only accounts for less than 20% of our GDP.

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              • mrsleeve
                I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                • Mar 2005
                • 16385

                #52
                Originally posted by Money$hit
                The United States is moving toward a service based economy versus production of goods. Manufacturing only accounts for less than 20% of our GDP.
                till we started giving huge amounts of that to India!
                Originally posted by Fusion
                If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                William Pitt-

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                • Charlie
                  kid tested, administrator approved
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 6686

                  #53
                  Originally posted by mrsleeve
                  Well I think in couple of weeks I am going to buy 10-12 1 kilo bars of silver and some smaller 10oz ingots just in case ever thing goes to shit and the Dollar goes insolvent or we hit a state of hyper inflation.
                  So, if this global economic collapse occurs that you're aiming for, what exactly do you plan to do with your expensive hunks of metal?

                  -Charlie
                  Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
                  '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
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                  • rwh11385
                    lance_entities
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 18403

                    #54
                    Originally posted by mrsleeve
                    till we started giving huge amounts of that to India!
                    Yes. Because every single service is outsourced now and there are no service jobs anymore. You know what else is wrong with the world - machines. We should get rid of them because they get rid of cobblers' jobs!!

                    It's called competition. Are you suggesting everyone should be paid more than the value they add? Just because? People should be sure that they are worth their salary rather than just assume that nothing will ever change and then complain when it does.

                    And remember, most of the income that is made over there becomes demand, which we make income here from.

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                    • mrsleeve
                      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 16385

                      #55
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

                      expensive hunks of metal will continue to be expensive an gain further value. It was not that long ago that money was really made of expensive metal and said money had a real value not just worthless paper.
                      Originally posted by Fusion
                      If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                      The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                      The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                      Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                      William Pitt-

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                      • mrsleeve
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 16385

                        #56
                        Originally posted by rwh11385
                        Yes. Because every single service is outsourced now and there are no service jobs anymore. You know what else is wrong with the world - machines. We should get rid of them because they get rid of cobblers' jobs!!

                        It's called competition. Are you suggesting everyone should be paid more than the value they add? Just because? People should be sure that they are worth their salary rather than just assume that nothing will ever change and then complain when it does.

                        And remember, most of the income that is made over there becomes demand, which we make income here from.


                        You are hopeless and miss guided. those service jobs that create demand in India, so we can send them shit from here. Are you serious, where the fuck do you think they are gonna get their junk form??/ The same place we do CHINA
                        Originally posted by Fusion
                        If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                        The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                        The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                        William Pitt-

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                        • accident
                          R3V OG
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 7303

                          #57
                          Originally posted by farbin kaiber
                          i'm still unemployed.
                          +1

                          Originally posted by ROLLingKING
                          i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
                          Originally posted by slammin.e28
                          Moral of this story?

                          If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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                          • rwh11385
                            lance_entities
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 18403

                            #58
                            Originally posted by mrsleeve
                            You are hopeless and miss guided. those service jobs that create demand in India, so we can send them shit from here. Are you serious, where the fuck do you think they are gonna get their junk form??/ The same place we do CHINA
                            Okay, don't believe me... we are doing business in both places. But hey, you have an amazing understanding of the world and whatever you think must be right. We should just make everything ourselves here in the USA and close up the borders, close down the ports, and not borrow money from anyone anymore!!

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                            • mrsleeve
                              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 16385

                              #59
                              Well that basic idea worked fairly well for about 200 years or so. What we got going on now is not going to work long term anyway.
                              Originally posted by Fusion
                              If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                              The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                              The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                              Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                              William Pitt-

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                              • rwh11385
                                lance_entities
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 18403

                                #60
                                Originally posted by mrsleeve
                                Well that basic idea worked fairly well for about 200 years or so. What we got going on now is not going to work long term anyway.
                                Yes, because the history of this country would be the same without trade or global capitalism.

                                The growth of the states were highly linked to trade. And it wasn't manufactured goods that we were producing to send back to Europe!

                                And before that... what was the sole reason America isn't just a bunch of Native Americans hunting buffalo on the wild plains? Oh yeah. Global trade with China and India...

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