Obama received $103,000 from AIG

[CleanAzzE30z]

He's like a block away from my house right now.

You know Obama? wtf?



Mariano

[Maluco]

[Hallen]

i'm not laughing.



see, i'm glad you make your logical fallacies so neat and glaringly obvious. it's like you giftwrapped this one with a pretty little bow on it. this is called an "ad hominem"; attempting to discredit a discussion point not by attacking the validity of the point itself, but by attacking the validity of any source of the assertion.

all the same, i'll play along. i'm guessing wikipedia falls neatly into this category?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton#Ties_with_U.S._Vice_President_Dick_Cheney

the new york times probably does as well, i'm sure. fucking "whack jobs". how DARE they disagree with fox news.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...57C0A9659C8B63





does the phrase "quid pro quo" strike a chord here?

Ad Hominem is not attacking the source of the data, it's attacking the source of the argument, in other words, the person making the argument.

So for example, you say "the sky is blue". I respond, "no it isn't, you're stupid."

There is enough corruption and stupidity in politics on both sides to keep us bringing up this kind of stuff all night. Every one of those slimy bastards up there is in bed with one or multiple companies or extremist enviro groups. The main point is simply this: Obama is one of them too. He isn't the hope and change so many people seem to think he is. He is just another back stabbing, slimy, amoral politician. The majority of the media needs to start treating him like they did the last President. If they don't, I am afraid that it does prove the point.

Also, go out and find how many companies are capable of fighting oil fires, building oil wells and oil infrastructure and are willing to do it while getting shot at. Then maybe choosing Halliburton won't be such a big mystery. I know logic isn't as fun as conspiracies and half baked accusations, but there it is. Both of those linked articles are simply accusations and inuendo. There could be some wrong doing here. But then again, maybe not.

[e30sd]

waiting for the birth cert to get tossed in...

[alpinweiB]

You know Obama? wtf?



Mariano

lol yea dude he was chilling up the street. just dropped by to say whats up

[decay]

Ad Hominem is not attacking the source of the data, it's attacking the source of the argument, in other words, the person making the argument.

So for example, you say "the sky is blue". I respond, "no it isn't, you're stupid."

which is exactly what E30 Cabrio was doing by saying he wouldn't accept arguments from any "whacko left-wing nutjob" websites.

we're straying from my point here, but Mariano covered it pretty well- if you're going to be outraged by graft and corruption, you should be pissed off at ANYONE who commits it- not just those on "the other side of the aisle".

[gwb72tii]

which is exactly what E30 Cabrio was doing by saying he wouldn't accept arguments from any "whacko left-wing nutjob" websites.

we're straying from my point here, but Mariano covered it pretty well- if you're going to be outraged by graft and corruption, you should be pissed off at ANYONE who commits it- not just those on "the other side of the aisle".

bingo!

one day the younger generation will wake up (including you too holmes) and realize the democrats are fucking them just like the republicans did

[Ogden325i]

Red or blue, republicans or democrats its all just a big Hollywood show to divide the people. These actors are not the ones in charge and never have been. They are there to make the public think they have a say in what's happening, guess what people unless your in the 33rd degree you have no idea. It is time for people to realize that we have the power if only we can stop arguing amongst ourselves long enough to actually use it.

[h0lmes]

The Dems are all outraged about AIG giving out bonuses after the Government bailed them out with 165 Billion dollars, but not a word about the 103k AIG gave Obama when he was a Senator.

Nice investment for AIG - give 103k, get back 165 billion.

http://www.kxmb.com/News/Nation/346030.asp

Oddly enough, the MSM is somehow not reporting this story for some strange and unknown reason, nor is Jon Stewart getting his panties bunched over it either.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/topr...?id=D000000123

AIG got that money before Obama was pres. Nice try though.

[TDE30]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090320/ap_on_en_tv/obama_special_olympics

OH NO!!!! Now he hates mental people!!! McCain wouldn't have done that!!!

This needs to go in the same file as Jeremiah Wright!!!!

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