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  • z31maniac
    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
    • Dec 2007
    • 17566

    #1

    Tried telling you......



    "Internal documents recently reviewed by Fortune, originally requested by Congress, show what the bill's critics predicted, and what its champions dreaded: many large companies are examining a course that was heretofore unthinkable, dumping the health care coverage they provide to their workers in exchange for paying penalty fees to the government."

    "Second, the bill imposes new taxes on drug manufacturers, medical device-makers, and health insurance providers. Hewitt leaves little doubt Verizon will be paying for them: "These provisions are fees or excise taxes that will be shifted to employers through increased fees and rates."" (Which I wish the tax loving liberals would realize happens WITH EVERY INCREASE ON TAXES AIMED AT BUSINESSES. The taxes the businesses have to pay reduce the amount of money that COULD go to your salary. They merely pass the cost, and effectively the tax, on to the consumers.)

    "Caterpillar and AT&T actually spell out the cost differences: Caterpillar did its estimate in November, when the most likely legislation would have imposed an 8% payroll tax on companies that do not provide coverage. Even with that immense penalty, Caterpillar stated that it could shave $25 million a year, or almost 10% from its bill. Now, because the $2,000 is far lower than 8%, it could reduce its bill by over 70%, by Fortune's estimate. Caterpillar did not respond to a request for comment.

    AT&T revealed that it spends $2.4 billion a year on coverage for its almost 300,000 active employees, a number that would fall to $600 million if AT&T stopped providing health care coverage and paid the penalty option instead. AT&T declined comment."
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  • joshh
    R3V OG
    • Aug 2004
    • 6195

    #2
    Lets just pass bills then find out what's in them afterward!!
    Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

    "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

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    • Vedubin01
      R3V Elite
      • Jun 2006
      • 5852

      #3
      it will be Foooo time here shorty.
      Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!

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      • dinanm3atl
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2007
        • 7305

        #4
        The bill will help insure 40 million uninsured though...

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        • z31maniac
          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
          • Dec 2007
          • 17566

          #5
          Originally posted by dinanm3atl
          The bill will help insure 40 million uninsured though...
          Yup, nothing like taking from those that have to give to those who have not.

          I mean that's what Amerika was founded on......
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          • dvs909
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Sep 2006
            • 1149

            #6
            i dont give a shit about those 40 million. what have they done for me?

            get a damn job, start your own business, cancel your cable and your fancy cell phone plan, stop spending more than you make. any combination of these and you should be able to get health insurance independently. i pay about $100 bucks a month for my coverage.

            i use a computer i got from 2006, self employ myself besides working for a restaurant and dont have cable. its all about priorities and these 40 million arnt fucking prioritizing

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            • dinanm3atl
              R3V OG
              • Feb 2007
              • 7305

              #7
              ^


              That's racist... kekeke

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              • joshh
                R3V OG
                • Aug 2004
                • 6195

                #8
                I should be able to pick who gets insurance with my money.
                Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

                ‎"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack Obama

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                • Wiglaf
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 1513

                  #9
                  if it was about saving that money by dumping the insurance and paying the fee, then why would they even offer it now when they could drop it with no penalty?
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                  Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
                  If you ever sell that car, tell me first. I want to be the first to not be able to afford it.

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                  • ck_taft325is
                    R3V OG
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 6880

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wiglaf
                    if it was about saving that money by dumping the insurance and paying the fee, then why would they even offer it now when they could drop it with no penalty?

                    Because it was an incentive they could afford. Health care costs are going to sky rocket and they've crunched the numbers. It's cheaper for them to cancel a bunch of health insurance benefits and just pay the fine. Get this, it's a company's main focus to make money. Why? Because that's what a business is about. At the cost of everything else? No, of course not. Bad businesses go by the way side for a reason.

                    I personally think generosity should be a way more prevalent trend in our society. I definately believe that some of the Republican talk is a bit out of this world stupid when it comes to helping others. But, there's no way in hell the Government can mandate this or require us to use their system in which to give to those in need. And if you really think about it, this isn't about insuring 40 million uninsured as they've spoon fed people, it's about making money. The same motivation they've villiafied businesses for is exactly what they're after.
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                    • dvs909
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 1149

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dinanm3atl
                      ^


                      That's racist... kekeke
                      of course it is. any criticism of anyone not white is racist.

                      fuck it

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                      • mrsleeve
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 16385

                        #12
                        Only white people are racist right ????
                        Originally posted by Fusion
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                        • Ryann
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 3350

                          #13
                          The baffling thing to me is that this bill does nothing to address the core issue: receiving medical care in the U.S. is RETARDED expensive. Example: I recently paid a visit to the skin doctor because skin cancer runs in the family. He took no more than 5 minutes to look me over, for which I was billed $180. That's $2160 per hour. I received no perscriptions or any sort of treatment whatsoever besides being LOOKED AT.

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                          • pureaudio
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • May 2009
                            • 1123

                            #14
                            You are completely discounting the fact that the doctor who looked at you for 5 minutes knew what they were looking for.

                            Originally posted by Ryann
                            The baffling thing to me is that this bill does nothing to address the core issue: receiving medical care in the U.S. is RETARDED expensive. Example: I recently paid a visit to the skin doctor because skin cancer runs in the family. He took no more than 5 minutes to look me over, for which I was billed $180. That's $2160 per hour. I received no perscriptions or any sort of treatment whatsoever besides being LOOKED AT.
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                            • StereoInstaller1
                              GAS
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 22679

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pureaudio
                              You are completely discounting the fact that the doctor who looked at you for 5 minutes knew what they were looking for.
                              Ain't no motherfucker alive who is good enough to be over $2000/hr for "looking"

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