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  • Norwegiandane
    Advanced Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 110

    #16
    Factory farms are not the end all be all folks. You have just accepted that because it's easy and you don't have to deal with it on a daily basis.

    We are feeding our livestock things that they would not naturally consume, and it makes them sick and then in turn makes us sick. Our own antibodies can hardly fight off some of the parasites we ingest eating shit meat. When we are truly ill, antibiotics tend to be less effective due to the antibiotics in the meat we eat. What's worse, children, whose own cells are still dividing and multiplying absorb these same things and then it spreads quicker into their bodies. Seriously think about that next time you take your little tike for a "Happy Meal". Might as well eat from a dumpster and drink from a sewer.

    Anyone here hunt? Ever tasted deer, rabbit and squirrel meat? Ever caught your own fish and eaten it camping? You know what the difference is? Nature. They eat what they know. It's leaner, healthier and tastes better. There is no pain or suffering or bullshit in it.

    I'm not advocating we all hunt and gather, but don't give me this crap about how proper factory farms are. They aren't. If they could at least do one thing to make it better for all of us it would be to feed them grains and grass NOT CORN!! Corn is the enemy when it comes to meat.

    Things can change for the better, but you have to ask for it, in fact demand it. Farmers are more then willing to do it. They don't want big business breathing down their necks. They want to do what they know best. If you all want to just accept it and damn yourself to bad health and possible death from poor farming then it's you to blame not me, or farmers or business. You.

    The best thing you can do now, is stop eating fast food, buy local when and where you can, and support proper farming that gets big business out of the game. LET FARMERS FARM!
    You're entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts.

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    • dvs909
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Sep 2006
      • 1149

      #17
      How the fuck are you gonna harvest the eggs of 4 million chickens and feed them if they arn't in a fricken factory line?

      your ideas fucking suck and would bring poverty to this nation.

      go hug a a free range steer.

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      • Norwegiandane
        Advanced Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 110

        #18
        Originally posted by dvs909
        How the fuck are you gonna harvest the eggs of 4 million chickens and feed them if they arn't in a fricken factory line?

        your ideas fucking suck and would bring poverty to this nation.

        go hug a a free range steer.
        Typical conservative rant.

        Shoot down any ideas, piss on the messenger, and offer no solutions.

        Go have a triple thick burger, and die of a coronary.
        You're entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts.

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        • e30s52
          R3V Elite
          • Oct 2007
          • 5235

          #19
          Originally posted by Norwegiandane
          Typical conservative rant.

          Shoot down any ideas, piss on the messenger, and offer no solutions.

          Go have a triple thick burger, and die of a coronary.
          Instead of dancing around his question why don't you answer it? Then put in your little rant about him.

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          • Norwegiandane
            Advanced Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 110

            #20
            Reduce some of our egg exportation. We export to Canada, Belgium, and Mexico. All have land masses large enough to produce their own eggs so we don't need to produce as much IMO. China is the worlds largest producer of eggs and they should be able to handle the needs of Hong Kong and Japan.
            Also we can buy locally instead of from farms 100's of miles away. Home bought eggs tend to last longer and don't need to be thrown out after only a week. Same can be said of most dairy and meat products as well.

            Listen, I understand the need for some "conveyor belt" harvesting. What I am advocating is letting farmers dictate how they wish to control their livestock rather then be given strict guidelines from suits in corporate offices who probably have never even seen dirt, let alone a farm. Farmers who don't comply with these "standards" set forth by corporations face losing their livelihoods all together. Ask a Tyson, Perdue or Smithfield farmer. You basically give up all of your rights for a paycheck that just covers the cost of business and a small profit.

            Injecting birds with massive amounts of antibiotics and growth hormones seriously compromise the health of the bird and thusly the humans who eat them. Also corn is a huge risk when it comes to feed. It absorbs parasites and then passes them on to whomever eats them afterwards. Chickens don't naturally eat corn, so don't feed it to them.

            That help?
            You're entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts.

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            • dvs909
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Sep 2006
              • 1149

              #21
              Originally posted by Norwegiandane
              Typical conservative rant.

              Shoot down any ideas, piss on the messenger, and offer no solutions.

              Go have a triple thick burger, and die of a coronary.
              my solution is status quo. factory farms work. i shot down your ideas because they are stupid.

              you propose we stop selling to canada and mexico which is also a dumbass idea, mostly for the farmers. They make MONEY by selling to canada and mexico and belgium. Money to run their farms and support their familys.

              maybe you missed the part about me working on a 4-5 million + chicken farm.

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              • e30e
                R3VLimited
                • Dec 2004
                • 2176

                #22
                How about reading my post and arguing it? So far all I see is about bunch of garbage read off blogs.
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                • Norwegiandane
                  Advanced Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 110

                  #23
                  Originally posted by e30e
                  How about reading my post and arguing it? So far all I see is about bunch of garbage read off blogs.
                  Uh, I did read your post dummy. Why do you think my first comment related that fact. Apparently you have read ZERO of mine.

                  What makes your blogs and opinions better than mine anyway? Are opposing point of views beyond your intellect. You also seem to have missed the spirit of Mike Rowes blog.

                  You think Food Inc. is when the whole epidemic started? THis has been an issue for decades my friend. It's obviously a concern held by millions of people, farmers and consumers alike. For whatever reason you and many others are siding with the very people profiting from bad farming technique. You are okay with corporatism? Blah!

                  For the last time I'm gonna say it. Stopping genetic enhancement of livestock and produce is what is needed. You either get it or don't.
                  You're entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts.

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                  • wildstoats
                    E30 Modder
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 896

                    #24
                    I have the perfect solution, in fact it may even turn out to be the final solution!

                    SOYLENT GREEN!



                    Soylent Green is the only possible solution to reduce our reliance on high output "factory farms" while still producing adequate amounts of food for the ever growing(?) population. Think about it, when you see people starving in the streets, think Soylent Green!
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                    • E30Kaiser
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1790

                      #25
                      What does Soylent Green taste like? Is it like Tofu? I've been meaning to try it but I am always in a rush at the grocery store.
                      "We're not here for a long time, we're here for a good time"-Colin McCrae

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                      • mrsleeve
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 16385

                        #26
                        Yeah ummmm Soy is not a good thing in mass for many people. SOY has huge amount of estrogen in it and thats not good for many women. It can throw off their hormone levels and lead to All kinds of other troubles, from Obesity, to infertility, Fibromilagia, massive headaches, and many other bad things.
                        Originally posted by Fusion
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                        • E30Kaiser
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 1790

                          #27
                          Originally posted by mrsleeve
                          Yeah ummmm Soy is not a good thing in mass for many people. SOY has huge amount of estrogen in it and thats not good for many women.
                          Soylent Green isn't made from soy.....
                          "We're not here for a long time, we're here for a good time"-Colin McCrae

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                          • mrsleeve
                            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 16385

                            #28
                            Originally posted by E30Kaiser
                            Soylent Green isn't made from soy.....
                            Ohhh silly me for thinking something with FUCKING SOY as the 1st 3 letters in the name had its origin from soy beans. I see this is a movie I was not aware of hehehehehe
                            Originally posted by Fusion
                            If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                            The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                            The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                            Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                            William Pitt-

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                            • E30Kaiser
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1790

                              #29
                              Originally posted by mrsleeve
                              Ohhh silly me for thinking something with FUCKING SOY as the 1st 3 letters in the name had its origin from soy beans. I see this is a movie I was not aware of hehehehehe
                              Yeah well it is a little hard to market something made out of people so they had to call it something hahaha.
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                              • e30e
                                R3VLimited
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 2176

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Norwegiandane
                                Uh, I did read your post dummy. Why do you think my first comment related that fact. Apparently you have read ZERO of mine.


                                For the last time I'm gonna say it. Stopping genetic enhancement of livestock and produce is what is needed. You either get it or don't.
                                Never once attack you buttttttt.....Okay once again; look up land available for agriculture, look up amount of water left in the world that is not salt affected, then look up population growth rate and rate of change of diet to protein based.

                                Now that you have looked up those facts, tell me this are we going to stop breeding and kill people or are we going to continue exploring feeding the world. Is it the U.S. responsibility, no; would a capitalist thinking person try. Hell Yea.

                                While people worry about foreign oil, I worry about FOREIGN FOOD; think U.S. agriculture is stupid, look up China's practices or practices done in the Middle East. The downfall of most ancient civilizations was because of Agriculture practices not adapting, the U.S. system and practices are constantly changing and evolving to feed the U.S. and the world.

                                You can enjoy your free range stuff, as a Agriculturalist I'm all for it because your paying a premium that both the farmer and the "EVIL" corporation take to the bank. I'll continue to trust one of the few government programs the USDA, inspect the food I put in my body and cook it properly. But your ideals are not going to feed the world or this country and that is a fact.
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