Can you believe in evolution and the bible at the same time?

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  • Turf1600
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    • Nov 2006
    • 9815

    #1

    Can you believe in evolution and the bible at the same time?

    I don't believe that it's logically possible, but I'm interested what others think. Please explain either way.
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    Last edited by Turf1600; 05-24-2010, 09:20 AM.
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  • joshh
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    • Aug 2004
    • 6195

    #2
    No because the bible is a made up book formatted by fucked up humans who were after controlling people.

    Bible thumpers over the years have become very skilled at warping evolution and the bible together.
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    • Aptyp
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      • Feb 2008
      • 6584

      #3
      Don't have to believe in bible word for word, but it's a good collection of stories for moral guidance.

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      • ACMF74
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        • Nov 2005
        • 1245

        #4
        Originally posted by Aptyp
        Don't have to believe in bible word for word, but it's a good collection of stories for moral guidance.
        Agreed.

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        • joshh
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          • Aug 2004
          • 6195

          #5
          Originally posted by Aptyp
          Don't have to believe in bible word for word, but it's a good collection of stories for moral guidance.


          If you can ignore the killing and raping.
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          • Lof8
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            • Oct 2006
            • 2827

            #6
            Adam, Eve, and Noah's Ark vs. primates evolving into humans.

            There are no similarities at all. It is completely illogical to believe "both."

            People who take the bible literally are idiots.
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            • mar1t1me
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              • Sep 2009
              • 863

              #7
              You can't "believe in" evolution any more than you can "believe in" gravity! They are both observable phenomena. Faith is not a prerequisite.

              Unlike gods.

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              • Turf1600
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                • Nov 2006
                • 9815

                #8
                I'm sorry - but if you use the bible as a moral foundation then something is wrong with you. The bible is full of horrible things.

                If you are "religious" and don't believe in the bible, what's your focal point?

                Having that said, I have no respect for those who cherry pick the bible for things they want to believe. All it does is allow you to live your life how you want and morally justify it by disregarding teachings that make you uncomfortable.

                This is dangerous because the bible is a big book. Anyone could come up with select verses that support essentially anything - including rape, incest, murder, prostitution, ect.
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                • Turf1600
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                  • Nov 2006
                  • 9815

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mar1t1me
                  You can't "believe in" evolution any more than you can "believe in" gravity! They are both observable phenomena. Faith is not a prerequisite.

                  Unlike gods.
                  Technically you are incorrect. Evolution is accepted as scientific fact - where natural selection is considered a theory.

                  I'm interested in the biblical version of gravity. Intelligent falling?
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                  • Stephen
                    Шлем ишака
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 10774

                    #10
                    You know not everyone who's read the bible is a frothing at the mouth fundamentalist

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                    • Danny
                      Moderator
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 14217

                      #11
                      I believe in Dr. Seuss.

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                      • Lof8
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                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2827

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Danny
                        I believe in Dr. Seuss.
                        I have a fish named Dr. Seuss. He is full of wisdom.
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                        • Danny
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                          • Feb 2008
                          • 14217

                          #13
                          Is he a prophet to the flying spaghetti monster?

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                          • Massive Lee
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                            • Sep 2006
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Turf1600
                            I don't believe that it's logically possible, but I'm interested what others think. Please explain either way.
                            Remember that the bible was written (and several times rewritten) in tough times and ages where people had no education at all. When governments were puppets of organized churches Therefore, some concepts in the bible were simply meant to mesmerize the population and put them under the control of the churches. The dude walking on water, the sea separating in two, the flood, Noe's Ark, the Zombie in the cave, and life that appeared overnight and stayed the same for ever. Remember that until a few centuries ago, Christians thought that the big plagues were the wrath of God. So, anyone educated can understand that what's in that book is some form of metaphore and should stick only to the spiritual side of the Christian church: be good to others and to yourself. The rest is filler and manipulation... One can believe in the natural cycle of evolution and still be a Christian.
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                            • Turf1600
                              R3V OG
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 9815

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Massive Lee
                              Remember that the bible was written (and several times rewritten) in tough times and ages were people had no education at all. Therefore, some concepts in the bible were simply meant to mesmerize them and put them under the control of the churches. The dude walking on water, the sea separating in two, the flood, Noe's Ark, the Zombie in the cave, and life that appeared overnight and stayed the same for ever. Remember that until a few centuries ago, Christians thought that the big plagues were the wrath of God. So, anyone educated can understand that what's in that book is some form of metaphore and should stick only to the spiritual side of the Christian church: be good to others and to yourself. The rest is filler and manipulation... One can believe in the natural cycle of evolution and still be a Christian.
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