Bush kills 3000 American citizens so he can send Haliburton to Iraq to rebuild

[kronus]

Lower taxes has little to nothing to do with working more. And it shows you have never owned your own business. The more Obama adds taxes the more the small companies (you know the ones that make this countries economy actually work) get choked out of business.

If I sit on my ass and I own 20 companies that are all making me millions, so be it. And I would support anyone that was able to do such a thing.
Liberals want to tax people that are successful because they feel it's "unfair". BOO fucking HOO. Eat shit!

Ok, so let's assume that is the Liberals' motivation. Is the Conservatives' motivation based on a belief that rich people up top should get MORE money, just because? What is the end goal? Obviously, most Conservatives would not directly benefit from lower taxes at the 603K+ bracket, so what's the motivation?

Note that most of that money is put away or invested overseas, where it doesn't help the American internal economy in significant ways.

[naplesE30]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Halliburton the only company to put in a bid for the contracts as they were the only company with the expertise and size to handle such an enormous job.

No one else could handle the size and scope of the jobs to do in the contract.

Your graphs have also made believe that capitalism is terribly wrong, your amazing graphs have made me have an epiphany. I am going to by a flag with a hammer and sickle right now.

[naplesE30]

By the way your little graphs are full of shit.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/1410.html

[mrsleeve]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Halliburton the only company to put in a bid for the contracts as they were the only company with the expertise and size to handle such an enormous job.

No one else could handle the size and scope of the jobs to do in the contract.

Your graphs have also made believe that capitalism is terribly wrong, your amazing graphs have made me have an epiphany. I am going to by a flag with a hammer and sickle right now.

all sparing aside, I think I like you

[joshh]

Ok, so let's assume that is the Liberals' motivation. Is the Conservatives' motivation based on a belief that rich people up top should get MORE money, just because? What is the end goal? Obviously, most Conservatives would not directly benefit from lower taxes at the 603K+ bracket, so what's the motivation?

Note that most of that money is put away or invested overseas, where it doesn't help the American internal economy in significant ways.

It shouldn't be about liberal or conservative.
People should be taxes equally. Taxing based on tax bracket is a poor way to go about it.
The real problem is Government keeps getting bigger and bigger requiring more and more money...yet no one is really benefiting except Politicians and those making deals with Politicians. I.E. mostly large companies.
Even Obama has his hand in companies getting benefits no other companies get. Not to mention the lobbyists.

[E30Kaiser]

The real problem is Government keeps getting bigger and bigger requiring more and more money...yet no one is really benefiting except Politicians and those making deals with Politicians. I.E. mostly large companies.
Even Obama has his hand in companies getting benefits no other companies get. Not to mention the lobbyists.

^This
I hate pork barreling, writing random other crap into bills, and bullshit lobbying. If I was a senator or congressman, everyone would hate me because I would nay every bill that had anything extra written into it that had nothing to do with what we were voting on. I would only last a single term needless to say.

[ck_taft325is]

Here's a question for both "Conservatives" and "Liberals" on this board:

Who or which of you think Politicians and more Government is a solution to our Problems?

Where does the money to pay Government Salaries come from that is sustainable to the Average citizen?

[joshh]

^This
I hate pork barreling, writing random other crap into bills, and bullshit lobbying. If I was a senator or congressman, everyone would hate me because I would nay every bill that had anything extra written into it that had nothing to do with what we were voting on. I would only last a single term needless to say.

Funny enough I have often thought the same exact thing.
And that's why you nor I will ever be "fit" to be politicians.
You have to be willing to be slime and "make deals".

[decay]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Halliburton the only company to put in a bid for the contracts as they were the only company with the expertise and size to handle such an enormous job.

you are wrong, so i'll correct you.

the military has personnel to handle everything i saw halliburton/KBR doing in iraq.

why is halliburton running the chow hall, when the army has cooks?
why are they in charge of the fuel supply, when the army has 92F's?
why are they doing all the construction, when the army has 21-series MOS's?
why did we pay blackwater to do anything, when we have SF/seals/etc?

anyone who calls themselves conservative and is upset about government overspending should be fucking LIVID about this, because the amount of tax dollars funneled to private corporations since the GWoT started makes ObamaCare look like pocket change.

[Ral]

while I generally agree with you, here's the problem:

there's not enough cooks, 92F's, 21-series MOS's and SF/SEALs to do everything that needed done without creating an OPTEMPO that would burn through the entire armed forces in one deployment cycle.

Also, with the money spent on training cooks, 92F's, 21-series MOS's, etc. and providing them with uniforms, housing, pay, etc. it becomes much cheaper to outsource the "general services" portions of the military (cooking, building, even personal security- but that's an entirely different issue I don't necessarily agree with and don't want to get into right now.)

How much money/training does it take to become a SEAL? And, after 15-20 years of being a SEAL with average to low pay plus the added stress that comes with being in the military, why would they stay on when they can go to a less restrictive work environment for a private contractor and get paid well enough to make the time away worth it? (Again, I'm not a fan of non-military forces overseas in the name of the U.S. Military. I'm explaining why they're so popular.)

[Ral]

oh, and OP- seriously?? I mean really?? think about what you're saying here, and the logisitcal nightmare it would be to pull it off.

[87e30]

This isn't about wanting rich people to make more money.

This is about wanting the money to flow through the economy, into small business, into business growth. I don't want the money flowing into pork barreling, health care, etc etc.

When you're born you understand that you need certain things to survive. A logical person will find a way to make that happen. A stupid person will rely on someone else (government.)

[naplesE30]

Funny I thought we were still in Iraq and Afganistan. Shit thanks for pointing out that Obama has ended those wars, and the contracts tied to them. We now gots plenty o money for Obama care!

Dont worry people the saviour has ended all the evil ways of Governmnet, and has cut spending... Man I had it way wrong, Obama is actually a fiscal conservative....

B.O. for 2012 who knows he may be even able to end term limits so I can vote for him in 2016

anyone who calls themselves conservative and is upset about government overspending should be fucking LIVID about this, because the amount of tax dollars funneled to private corporations since the GWoT started makes ObamaCare look like pocket change.

[naplesE30]

Also, the private sector will always do jobs cheaper then govt will. Simple but true.

[ck_taft325is]

So, neither side has any type of response to my question posed?