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  • Vedubin01
    R3V Elite
    • Jun 2006
    • 5852

    #1

    Egypt - it aint the USA

    thoughts?

    Egypt: No citizenship in Israeli unions

    Case underlines deep animosity Egyptians hold toward Israelis



    By MAAMOUN YOUSSEF
    updated 3:30 p.m. ET, Sat., June 5, 2010

    CAIRO - An Egyptian appeals court on Saturday upheld a ruling that orders the country's Interior Ministry to strip the citizenship from Egyptians married to Israeli women.
    The case underlines the deep animosity many Egyptians still hold toward Israelis, despite a peace treaty signed between the two countries 31 years ago.
    The Supreme Administrative Court's decision also scores a point for Egyptian hard-liners who have long resisted any improvement in ties with Israel since the signing of the 1979 peace treaty.
    In upholding last year's lower court ruling, the appeals court said Saturday that the Interior Ministry should present each marriage case to the Cabinet on an individual basis. The Cabinet will then rule on whether to strip the Egyptian of his citizenship.The court also said officials should take into consideration whether a man married an Israeli Arab or a Jew when making its decision to revoke citizenship.
    Saturday's decision, which cannot be appealed, comes more than year after a lower court ruled that the Interior Ministry, which deals with citizenship documents, must implement the 1976 article of the citizenship law. That bill revokes citizenship of Egyptians who married Israelis who have served in the army or embrace Zionism as an ideology. The Interior Ministry appealed that ruling.
    The lawyer who brought the original suit to court, Nabih el-Wahsh, celebrated Saturday's ruling, saying it "is aimed at protecting Egyptian youth and Egypt's national security."
    The government has not released figures of Egyptians married to Israeli women, but some estimates put the number around 30,000.


    Israeli officials said they had no comment on Saturday's ruling.In 2005, former Grand Mufti Nasr Farid Wasel issued a religious edict, or fatwa, saying Muslim Egyptians may not marry Israeli nationals, "whether Arab, Muslim, or Christian." The possibility of a Jewish spouse was not mentioned.
    Mohammed Sayyed Tantawi, the late Grand Sheik of Cairo's Al-Azhar, Sunni Islam's premier institution and oldest university, has said that while marriage between an Egyptian man and an Israeli woman is not religiously forbidden, the government has the right to strip the man of his citizenship for marrying a woman from "an enemy state."
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  • Aptyp
    R3V OG
    • Feb 2008
    • 6584

    #2
    that sucks for all like 3 people

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    • dvs909
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      • Sep 2006
      • 1149

      #3
      are their any benefits to Egyptian citizenship?

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      • z31maniac
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Dec 2007
        • 17566

        #4
        Meh?

        It's obviously racist and seemingly backward, but it's their country.
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        • ak-
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          • May 2009
          • 12422

          #5
          My family and I having fun in Egypt, picture related:


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          • Vedubin01
            R3V Elite
            • Jun 2006
            • 5852

            #6
            ^^^ thats bad ass, enjoy!

            I see you respect their traditions, wearing their head gear. If people did that coming to America, we would not be in this problem we are in today.
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            • Massive Lee
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              • Sep 2006
              • 6785

              #7
              Egypt ain't the USA? Are you sure about that?
              Joe Lieberman wants to achieve the same in the US. For the same reason as Egypt: National Security.



              In some other Mid-Eastern country, it is proposed that if you are in the opposition, you may get stripped of your citizenship and become a Martian overnight. ;-) Talk about being a democratic country.

              Israeli Arab MK Hanin Zuabi Took Part in Gaza Aid Flotilla, in What Eli Yishai Calls a 'Premeditated Act of Treason' Under Protection of Parliamentary Immunity.


              In terms of interfaith mariage, it is forbiden in Traditional Judaism. And not easily accepted in "common" Judaism. Crazy religions. Either sides.

              "Traditional Judaism does not permit interfaith marriages. The Torah states that the children of such marriages would be lost to Judaism (Deut. 7:3-4), and experience has shown the truth of this passage all too well. The 2000 National Jewish Population Survey found that only a third of interfaith couples raise their children Jewish, despite increasing efforts in the Reform and Conservative communities to welcome interfaith couples."
              Last edited by Massive Lee; 06-05-2010, 05:37 PM.
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              • Vedubin01
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                • Jun 2006
                • 5852

                #8
                passing it, and wanting it to happen is different. It would never happen here.
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                • Massive Lee
                  R3V OG
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 6785

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Vedubin01
                  passing it, and wanting it to happen is different. It would never happen here.
                  100% agreed. Especially that it goes against three Ammendments.

                  And logically, it could also strip anyone who has pledged alleageance to another country. Meaning that any immigrant can be stripped of his US citizenship... Duh. And therefore, no immigration is possible anymore...
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                  • ck_taft325is
                    R3V OG
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 6880

                    #10
                    Totally agree that Mr. Lieberman is a total dolt.

                    Doesn't change that Egypt is completely wrong for doing so.
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