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  • Farbin Kaiber
    Lil' Puppet
    • Jul 2007
    • 29502

    #31
    ^ YOU don't understand, it's not about the fact they are trying to take care of the people with the money of the people who fucked up. It's about the fact that FROM NOW ON, the US can just "shakedown" whatever big Co. they decide is "unfit". This may be OK, in this situation, but NOW they could do this in ANY situation.

    Do you see how this is scary? Circumventing the entire legal system our country has been built on. Allowing one man (or group of men) supreme power over the country, "above the law".

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    • Wiglaf
      E30 Mastermind
      • Jan 2007
      • 1513

      #32
      If they go give AIG a "shakedown" to get our money back, I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

      And no they are not circumventing the entire legal system any more than BP is.

      From a fear mongering perspective I understand your point, but most companies don't fuck up this bad. And when they do, well then it would probably be justified again. It's pretty hard to cause this much damage without nukes.
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      Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
      If you ever sell that car, tell me first. I want to be the first to not be able to afford it.

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      • Farbin Kaiber
        Lil' Puppet
        • Jul 2007
        • 29502

        #33
        Corrected statement would be, most companies don't fuck up this bad in the US. Some (US based Co.'s as well) do a hell of a lot worse every day in third world countries.

        Did you hear about how there are all sorts of things going on with the Union killings in the Banana fields in South/Central America?

        This my friend is a genuine accident.

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        • z31maniac
          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
          • Dec 2007
          • 17566

          #34
          Originally posted by Wiglaf
          If they go give AIG a "shakedown" to get our money back, I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

          And no they are not circumventing the entire legal system any more than BP is.

          From a fear mongering perspective I understand your point, but most companies don't fuck up this bad. And when they do, well then it would probably be justified again. It's pretty hard to cause this much damage without nukes.
          Please explain how BP is circumventing the entire legal system.
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          • e30e
            R3VLimited
            • Dec 2004
            • 2176

            #35
            Originally posted by z31maniac
            Please explain how BP is circumventing the entire legal system.
            Because the BP corporations are .................evil???

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            • shiftbmw
              R3VLimited
              • Oct 2005
              • 2012

              #36
              They're all crooks.
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              • gwb72tii
                No R3VLimiter
                • Nov 2005
                • 3864

                #37
                Originally posted by Wiglaf
                If they go give AIG a "shakedown" to get our money back, I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

                And no they are not circumventing the entire legal system any more than BP is.

                From a fear mongering perspective I understand your point, but most companies don't fuck up this bad. And when they do, well then it would probably be justified again. It's pretty hard to cause this much damage without nukes.
                any government that can circumvent the law against a big company like BP will do the same to you individually.
                BP is not avoiding the law. By law they have the right to cap their damages at $75 million. They waived that cap before the pres said anything. this is the law passed by congress years ago.
                “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                Sir Winston Churchill

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                • u3b3rg33k
                  R3VLimited
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 2452

                  #38
                  Gee, I wonder where that law came from?

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                  • dvs909
                    E30 Enthusiast
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 1149

                    #39
                    ^^^ gee what do you mean?

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                    • Wiglaf
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 1513

                      #40
                      BP is not circumventing the entire legal system, but there are countless exceptions, waivers, rule bending. That was the point of my previous statement.

                      Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
                      Corrected statement would be, most companies don't fuck up this bad in the US. Some (US based Co.'s as well) do a hell of a lot worse every day in third world countries.

                      Did you hear about how there are all sorts of things going on with the Union killings in the Banana fields in South/Central America?

                      This my friend is a genuine accident.
                      Was not aware of that particular situation, but it's no secret that what we do to other countries is fucking awful. Pure greed at work there, those guys don't give a fuck about worker conditions, pollution, etc. Entire villages getting cancer from the water well.. literally getting away with murder out there.

                      It sucks, and damages our image, but what can you do? Things usually get taken care of once brought to the light but really these countries have to stand up for themselves. The more advanced the country is, the less people can get away with.

                      When I imagine mining all that lithium in Afghanistan, I can't help but think of that Indiana Jones movie with the child slaves pushing rickety mine carts around.

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                      Originally posted by EndreM
                      Last edited by Wiglaf; 06-23-2010, 02:36 PM.
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                      Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
                      If you ever sell that car, tell me first. I want to be the first to not be able to afford it.

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                      • mrsleeve
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 16385

                        #41
                        Originally posted by gwb72tii
                        any government that can circumvent the law against a big company like BP will do the same to you individually.
                        BP is not avoiding the law. By law they have the right to cap their damages at $75 million. They waived that cap before the pres said anything. this is the law passed by congress years ago.
                        why do they have that cap??? Was an agreement between the industry and the govt to get them to go in to Ultra deep water rather than in diver serviceable depths
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