Originally posted by Vedubin01
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Why aren't you guys tripping out over this?
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I don't care what anyone says. This bitch still has a racial bias.
She spoke at an NAACP event. That's the first sign. Then look at her comments about FOX news....lol.
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The full transcript of her presentation was not available at the time. All info that was available was digested.
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Originally posted by Victell View PostIf you dont have the 'opportunity' to look at all the facts then you shouldnt have jumped to conclusions. Simple. But that didnt stop you guys, the white house nor Sherrod's boss from jumping on the bandwagon. Whoops you all got fooled.
But the wh and Sherrod's boss have taken personal responsibilty for allowing themselves to be misled, and done the right thing and apologized. But you three that I called out did not, and instead blamed someone else.
Re: your 'leaders'. Yes, its your sources of 'news' that are leading you down their path. Always be skeptical of those that make money from 'informing' you. You guys should have learned from the Acorn setup, but didnt aparrantly.
Re: the maddow link, dont ad hominem the source. If the shoe fits...
You are coming in here with the benefit of Hind sight, 4 days latter after the entire shit storm has become clear.
Like I keep saying you are taking a discussion of the situation about the incident, that was based on assumption from the FACTs available at the time, sometimes you get it right sometimes you dont.
But again you have the benefit of hind site, and continue, to lambaste from that high horse you are sitting on but with flawed information, you have poached from what can be called a equally biased source that is FLAT Wrong (or a lie in some circles) in this case.
We, made our arguments before the talking heads had put it up on the air (just because they happen to be congruent does not make one based from the other, people with similar views generally come to similar conclusions given the same info). You on the other hand are parroting, "your talking head" with info that was spoon fed to you, with out getting all the facts that ARE AVAILABLE now.
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Originally posted by Victell View PostIf you dont have the 'opportunity' to look at all the facts then you shouldnt have jumped to conclusions. Simple. But that didnt stop you guys, the white house nor Sherrod's boss from jumping on the bandwagon. Whoops you all got fooled.
But the wh and Sherrod's boss have taken personal responsibilty for allowing themselves to be misled, and done the right thing and apologized. But you three that I called out did not, and instead blamed someone else.
Re: your 'leaders'. Yes, its your sources of 'news' that are leading you down their path. Always be skeptical of those that make money from 'informing' you. You guys should have learned from the Acorn setup, but didnt aparrantly.
Re: the maddow link, dont ad hominem the source. If the shoe fits...
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Originally posted by mrsleeve View PostDid you look at the link that was posted in his rant??? I just did, its a maddow link that shows exactly what he said to us.
It seems to be a pot meet kettle situation but the kettle here did not have an opportunity to look at facts that were not available during the initial discussion, and is being blighted for that as well.
But the wh and Sherrod's boss have taken personal responsibilty for allowing themselves to be misled, and done the right thing and apologized. But you three that I called out did not, and instead blamed someone else.
Re: your 'leaders'. Yes, its your sources of 'news' that are leading you down their path. Always be skeptical of those that make money from 'informing' you. You guys should have learned from the Acorn setup, but didnt aparrantly.
Re: the maddow link, dont ad hominem the source. If the shoe fits...
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Did you look at the link that was posted in his rant??? I just did, its a maddow link that shows exactly what he said to us.
It seems to be a pot meet kettle situation but the kettle here did not have an opportunity to look at facts that were not available during the initial discussion, and is being blighted for that as well.
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^ Oh yeah, I forgot, I must have written in Glenn Beck. This explains everything.
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Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber View PostAnd, they are not "Your" leaders, they are "our" leaders. Stop picking sides and start siding with the US Population, the people of whom and by this country is founded by/on/for.
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And, they are not "Your" leaders, they are "our" leaders. Stop picking sides and start siding with the US Population, the people of whom and by this country is founded by/on/for.
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No guys, don't you know, once you say something, you can never change your mind as you grow more knowledgeable about the subject. :razz:
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Yeah, we are teh only ones that jumped to conclusions.
I mean its not like the White House got involved and the woman lost her job or anything. OH wait.........
We made the same conclusion everyone else did based on what we were presented. We have new facts now, see that our initial conclusion was wrong and admitted as much.
Not really sure what the problem with that is.
I mean, I guess we could be like most Dems and ignore truth in pursuit of a failed agenda.
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Originally posted by Victell View PostOutstanding guys. Jumping to conclusions on an edited clip by what your team leaders have spoon fed you. Again. And now that you know that its poison, you blame someone else for it. All the while never accepting personal responsibility for any of it. You are a prime example of forming your own emotional opinions, then cherry-picking factoids to fit it.
Again, think for yourself people, If you ever decide to. There will be some painful cognitive dissonance, but you will come out better on the other side. I rarely listen to the infotainment pundits, but she got it just right here.
Hopefully someday you will see your own blind bias and how you're being clumsily led by your team leaders.
UMMMMMM we were discussing with the information at hand, when new info came into play then arguments could be adjusted, retracted or what ever. When most of what you have quoted was posted, the original britebart tape had not aired on ANY Television station, and was what it was a internet video to be taken with a grain of salt. Again not on TV yet, Let alone Beck Rush or the rest of them. We were discussing the video before us, on the assumption that the implied context was correct.
So tell me "How our leaders spoon fed us what to think and say" if they had not even talked about till late monday night or even tuesday. Your time line is off and you are spouting off what is coming outta the NY times and the white house, with out checking into your facts and time line. SO I guess you are just as guilty of this shit as the rest of us. How do you like your Crow??? Blackened or in Pie???? I prefer mine grilled.
Well turns out the implied context was just that implied. Still does not change fact that the W/H knee jerked and well acted stupidly again just like a year earlier, when race was involved.
The fact that this woman has stated many times that, the W/H said you are going to be on Beck tonight show, they are afraid of him, weather hes right, wrong, or indifferent. Hes casting light on to THIS ADMINISTRATION and its Policies, and appointees. That frankly the admin would rather not be so openly talked about.
I look forward to your next attempt at shit throwing
EDIT: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHA Post a Madow link will not gain you much here. She does nothing but replay countless fox clips and then bash and call names, in an attempt to discredit and fling shit. Like I posted above The W/H jumped to conclusions as well and she was forced to quit Even before fox ran the story at all. You have no excuse's all the info has been readily available for a couple of days now, for you to check the info you have been spoon fed, We didnt have that option in the 1st page of this thread.Last edited by mrsleeve; 07-23-2010, 05:10 PM.
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Outstanding guys. Jumping to conclusions on an edited clip by what your team leaders have spoon fed you. Again. And now that you know that its poison, you blame someone else for it. All the while never accepting personal responsibility for any of it. You are a prime example of forming your own emotional opinions, then cherry-picking factoids to fit it.
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Originally posted by Vedubin01 View Postshe is the true definition of the word..........
Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not getting the point, we are all supposed to be past this shit. Especialy those in a govt position and are supposed to be impartial. If this had been a white lady talking about not helping a black or latino family to best of their ability when that is the job they are being paid to do. YOU WOULD BE ALL UP IN ARMS and Pissed off bitching and moaning and screaming racist at the top of you lugs and demanding repudiation.
You your self are furthering the point that the only people in the world that can be racist are white people. This lady should not get a pass "because she prolly has seen lots of racism". She should be removed from her position for this crap.
Yes this is disgusting, nothing more than racial politics that have been going on for a long time now.
Just look to Oakland, or Detroit to see how it ends. Detroit is the poster child and a microcosm for the policies that are now being played out on the national level. If this shit continues the whole country will end up like being just like Detroit.Originally posted by z31maniac View PostAnd don't give me the isolated incident bullshit. The fact she would publicly mention this is indicative that she thought it would be OK, which means she is in like minded company.
I think what upset people is the zeal with which she told the story, almost bragging about being in a position of power over a white person.
It looks like trying to sound cool to her racist friends got her axed.
And THAT is hilarious.
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Originally posted by Vedubin01 View PostGlen Beck is also backing this lady and is saying she is wrongly removed from office. Saying the call came from the White House directly. Could this be again the White House making calls before doing its own research?
If in fact the tape was edited to make her look racist, then the person behind it should be hung!Originally posted by mrsleeve View PostOh well I just love how the forced her resignation, by telling her "Your Going to be on Beck tonight" :rofl: just goes to show how much the feds need us to look the other way and cant stand a light being shown on what they are up too, this administration in particular.Originally posted by z31maniac View PostAndrew Breitbart's credibility is taking a serious hit on this one.
Again, think for yourself people, If you ever decide to. There will be some painful cognitive dissonance, but you will come out better on the other side. I rarely listen to the infotainment pundits, but she got it just right here.
Hopefully someday you will see your own blind bias and how you're being clumsily led by your team leaders.
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Her story still stinks.
And just the fact she's speaking at an NAACP convention tells it's own story.
If this were a white person telling this story, they wouldn't get a pass.
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