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    Britain Plans to Decentralize National Health Care


    LONDON — Perhaps the only consistent thing about Britain’s socialized health care system is that it is in a perpetual state of flux, its structure constantly changing as governments search for the elusive formula that will deliver the best care for the cheapest price while costs and demand escalate.
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    Andrew Testa for The New York Times

    The new British government’s plan to drastically reshape the socialized health care system would put local physicians like Dr. Marita Koumettou in north London in control of much of the national health budget.


    Even as the new coalition government said it would make enormous cuts in the public sector, it initially promised to leave health care alone. But in one of its most surprising moves so far, it has done the opposite, proposing what would be the most radical reorganization of the National Health Service, as the system is called, since its inception in 1948.
    Practical details of the plan are still sketchy. But its aim is clear: to shift control of England’s $160 billion annual health budget from a centralized bureaucracy to doctors at the local level. Under the plan, $100 billion to $125 billion a year would be meted out to general practitioners, who would use the money to buy services from hospitals and other health care providers.
    The plan would also shrink the bureaucratic apparatus, in keeping with the government’s goal to effect $30 billion in “efficiency savings” in the health budget by 2014 and to reduce administrative costs by 45 percent. Tens of thousands of jobs would be lost because layers of bureaucracy would be abolished.
    In a document, or white paper, outlining the plan, the government admitted that the changes would “cause significant disruption and loss of jobs.” But it said: “The current architecture of the health system has developed piecemeal, involves duplication and is unwieldy. Liberating the N.H.S., and putting power in the hands of patients and clinicians, means we will be able to effect a radical simplification, and remove layers of management.”
    The health secretary, Andrew Lansley, also promised to put more power in the hands of patients. Currently, how and where patients are treated, and by whom, is largely determined by decisions made by 150 entities known as primary care trusts — all of which would be abolished under the plan, with some of those choices going to patients. It would also abolish many current government-set targets, like limits on how long patients have to wait for treatment.
    The plan, with many elements that need legislative approval to be enacted, applies only to England; other parts of Britain have separate systems.
    The government announced the proposals this month. Reactions to them range from pleased to highly skeptical.
    Many critics say that the plans are far too ambitious, particularly in the short period of time allotted, and they doubt that general practitioners are the right people to decide how the health care budget should be spent. Currently, the 150 primary care trusts make most of those decisions. Under the proposals, general practitioners would band together in regional consortia to buy services from hospitals and other providers.





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    #2
    It's a good thing they waited to do this until after we got on board here in the US.

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      #3
      Best of both worlds. Single-payer and physician controlled. Now they just need national evidence-based treatment algorithms and centralized electronic records.
      Originally posted by Gruelius
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        #4
        still wont make it any cheaper, will still have long wait times, will just be a even bigger cluster fuck than it is now.
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          #5
          Not only is health care a human right so is having a home, having a cell phone (with minutes on it), having food to eat, having a DVD player and having a TV with cable of course.
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            #6
            As a medical professional, you have no idea whats coming!!


            Simplicity is your best option!

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              #7
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

              Please explain this to the other "medical Professional" KenC would ya


              He might listen to another medical professional rather than us commoners
              Last edited by mrsleeve; 07-25-2010, 03:40 AM.
              Originally posted by Fusion
              If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
              The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


              The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

              Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
              William Pitt-

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                #8
                Originally posted by ThreeTwentyFissel View Post
                As a medical professional, you have no idea whats coming!!
                What's your profession?
                Originally posted by Gruelius
                and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                  #9
                  The system that England is proposing sounds similar to the system in which I work (LARGE HMO). The physician group is partnered with the insurance payer. The physicians write the care guidelines and make all decisions regarding care. The group consistently provides some of the best care in the region for a large group of patients.
                  Originally posted by Gruelius
                  and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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