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  • Vedubin01
    R3V Elite
    • Jun 2006
    • 5852

    #1

    More teens becoming 'fake' Christians

    Author: More teens becoming 'fake' Christians


    If you're the parent of a Christian teenager, Kenda Creasy Dean has this warning: Your child is following a "mutant" form of Christianity, and you may be responsible.

    Dean says more American teenagers are embracing what she calls "moralistic therapeutic deism." Translation: It's a watered-down faith that portrays God as a "divine therapist" whose chief goal is to boost people's self-esteem.


    Dean is a minister, a professor at Princeton Theological Seminary and the author of "Almost Christian," a new book that argues that many parents and pastors are unwittingly passing on this self-serving strain of Christianity.


    She says this "imposter'' faith is one reason teenagers abandon churches.


    "If this is the God they're seeing in church, they are right to leave us in the dust," Dean says. "Churches don't give them enough to be passionate about."


    Dean drew her conclusions from what she calls one of the most depressing summers of her life. She interviewed teens about their faith after helping conduct research for a controversial study called the National Study of Youth and Religion.


    The study, which included in-depth interviews with at least 3,300 American teenagers between 13 and 17, found that most American teens who called themselves Christian were indifferent and inarticulate about their faith.


    The study included Christians of all stripes –– from Catholics to Protestants of both conservative and liberal denominations. Though three out of four American teenagers claim to be Christian, fewer than half practice their faith, only half deem it important, and most can't talk coherently about their beliefs, the study found.


    Many teenagers thought that God simply wanted them to feel good and do good –– what the study's researchers called "moralistic therapeutic deism."


    Some critics told Dean that most teenagers can't talk coherently about any deep subject, but Dean says abundant research shows that's not true.


    "They have a lot to say," Dean says. "They can talk about money, sex and their family relationships with nuance. Most people who work with teenagers know that they are not naturally inarticulate."


    In "Almost Christian," Dean talks to the teens who are articulate about their faith. Most come from Mormon and evangelical churches, which tend to do a better job of instilling religious passion in teens, she says.


    No matter their background, Dean says committed Christian teens share four traits: They have a personal story about God they can share, a deep connection to a faith community, a sense of purpose and a sense of hope about their future.


    "There are countless studies that show that religious teenagers do better in school, have better relationships with their parents and engage in less high-risk behavior," she says. "They do a lot of things that parents pray for."


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    "We can all agree that we should all be good and that God rewards those who are nice."


    Corrie, echoing the author of "Almost Christian," says the gospel of niceness can't teach teens how to confront tragedy.


    "It can't bear the weight of deeper questions: Why are my parents getting a divorce? Why did my best friend commit suicide? Why, in this economy, can't I get the good job I was promised if I was a good kid?"


    What can a parent do then?


    Get "radical," Dean says.


    She says parents who perform one act of radical faith in front of their children convey more than a multitude of sermons and mission trips.


    A parent's radical act of faith could involve something as simple as spending a summer in Bolivia working on an agricultural renewal project {that's simple!? } or turning down a more lucrative job offer to stay at a struggling church, Dean says.


    But it's not enough to be radical –– parents must explain "this is how Christians live," she says.


    "If you don't say you're doing it because of your faith, kids are going to say my parents are really nice people," Dean says. "It doesn't register that faith is supposed to make you live differently unless parents help their kids connect the dots."


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  • Farbin Kaiber
    Lil' Puppet
    • Jul 2007
    • 29502

    #2
    I have a whole lot to say on this subject.

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    • briansjacobs
      E30 Fanatic
      • May 2010
      • 1278

      #3
      new report- MORE CHRISTAINS ARE FAKE CHRISTIANS
      Brian Jacobs

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      • Farbin Kaiber
        Lil' Puppet
        • Jul 2007
        • 29502

        #4
        When the word is perverted by false "pastors" selling self help (e.g. Joel Osteen, Paula White, etc...) concepts with a story from the Bible to tie it together, what would you expect?

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        • Adrian_Visser
          R3VLimited
          • Jun 2006
          • 2823

          #5
          Originally posted by Vedubin01
          Dean talks to the teens who are articulate about their faith. Most come from Mormon and evangelical churches, which tend to do a better job of instilling religious passion in teens
          So what does this mean exactly? Mormons are better Christians?

          I'm an atheist btw.

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          • mrsleeve
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Mar 2005
            • 16385

            #6
            I have no religious affiliation and even I find this a bit of a slap in the face of those that do believe and a perversion of what they supposedly believe in.


            So what say you Reverend Farbin????
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            • dinanm3atl
              R3V OG
              • Feb 2007
              • 7305

              #7
              Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
              I have a whole lot to say on this subject.
              Me too. Want to elaborate?

              Originally posted by briansjacobs
              new report- MORE CHRISTAINS ARE FAKE CHRISTIANS

              Yup. A true believer and someone living the life seems hard to find in today's world.









              For me it is hard to really type out what I feel on the subject but it seems in today's world it is more a convenience thing. Watching the sermon online because you didn't go to the actual church. Holding the 'I am a christian' at some sort of goal/high/etc to be proud of. Like it makes you a better person.

              On top of that... these MEGA churches buying up land. It is like the local pro football stadium but it is a church. Their land occupies a city block. The church is filled with hundreds of LCD TVs. Stadium seating. The business of religion must be doing quite well.

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              • Farbin Kaiber
                Lil' Puppet
                • Jul 2007
                • 29502

                #8
                It's fact. It's really happening. I have had many conversations with people whom are "fooled" into this false concept.

                The best way to send the masses off the path is to introduce a subtle turn to the truth. It becomes very digestible, but sets you out, with your marching orders, proudly hiking in the wrong direction.

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                • Dozyproductions
                  R3V Elite
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 4682

                  #9
                  When I used to go to my youth group I could tell this was happening and is exactly why I stopped going there.

                  Another thing I really hate, having mainly Christian friends, is that all of them condemn sex before marriage but all of them still enjoy the benefits of oral sex more than even I do. I don't understand the lines between what's acceptable and what's not but it seems that the principle of holding out till marriage is ruined by having oral.

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                  • KenC
                    King of Kegstands
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 14396

                    #10
                    Maybe the youth are getting smarter as a collective and refusing to believe the mysticism of religion or "god" and his supposed son/prophets. Perhaps in the near future this nation can stop worrying about what "god" thinks is right. A good day that would be indeed.
                    Originally posted by Gruelius
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                    • Farbin Kaiber
                      Lil' Puppet
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 29502

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Joel Osteen
                      God wants us to prosper financially, to have plenty of money, to fulfill the destiny He has laid out for us.
                      Originally posted by Joel Osteen
                      If Jesus were here today, he wouldn't be riding around on a donkey. He'd be taking a plane, he'd be using the media.
                      Originally posted by Joel Osteen
                      It's God's will for you to live in prosperity instead of poverty. It's God's will for you to pay your bills and not be in debt.
                      Originally posted by Joel Osteen
                      To me, we're marketing hope.






                      Two short texts on the concept...



                      Great series of quotes here,

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                      • dinanm3atl
                        R3V OG
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 7305

                        #12
                        Originally posted by KenC
                        Maybe the youth are getting smarter as a collective and refusing to believe the mysticism of religion or "god" and his supposed son/prophets. Perhaps in the near future this nation can stop worrying about what "god" thinks is right. A good day that would be indeed.
                        When 'religion' took hold off and gained control I can see how it gave the masses hope. A dream. That even though you had the plague. Your family was and has been slaves for generations. You work on a farm. Your parents were murdered. Etc... there was HOPE.

                        This was a time when you the masses could not read. The nobles and the church could. I can see how during these dark ages having the church and religion gave you the hope to carry on. Yes your life on earth sucked. You died of the plague. BUT... if you follow these rules you have the chance to 'live' and dine with the nobles in a glorious place called heaven. I understand that.

                        It was so powerful that it convinced masses of people to go to war for some supposed holy land. A war that still rages today. A war condoned by 'religion' that includes rape, murders and pillaging.

                        Fast forward today. It just doesn't make sense. As you said... it seems more and more are catching on and starting to question the 'norm'. You sit there and go "Why does god say gays can't get married? God didn't write any of the bible. A bunch of MEN did."

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                        • briansjacobs
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • May 2010
                          • 1278

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dinanm3atl
                          . The business of religion must be doing quite well.
                          well with no income tax and no accounting regulations or accountability for anything it is almost fail proof, You just need a good salesman!
                          Brian Jacobs

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                          • briansjacobs
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • May 2010
                            • 1278

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dozyproductions
                            When I used to go to my youth group I could tell this was happening and is exactly why I stopped going there.

                            Another thing I really hate, having mainly Christian friends, is that all of them condemn sex before marriage but all of them still enjoy the benefits of oral sex more than even I do. I don't understand the lines between what's acceptable and what's not but it seems that the principle of holding out till marriage is ruined by having oral.
                            dont forget ANAL!
                            Brian Jacobs

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