Guess why Facebook CEO was able to give 100 million to education?

[Leaf]

i'd say post a paycheck, but can photoshop my paycheck to look like $20k a month, so eh..

this kind of arguing is really the lowest form of arguing on the interwebs.

The last thing i'm going to post is personal documents on r3v...

[balooshinakus]

How much people should pay for taxes is pretty subjective. I fall into the category of believing that the rich should be paying significantly more than the poor/middle class. I also think that the government needs to be paying a lot more college tuition for people, especially for engineering/science/math degrees. People keep complaining that our country is falling behind and part of the reason is because college educations are pretty expensive, and there are a lot of people out there who simply cannot afford them. Besides, college graduates make more on average, and will end up paying a lot of their tuition back in taxes.

I also think that tax loopholes need to be fixed. It's insane that the second richest person in the country is in a lesser tax bracket then his secretary ( http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/mon...cle1996735.ece ).

Anyways, taxes are something that people will never agree on, but it doesn't benefit anyone besides the top money makers to give the ultra wealthy tax breaks, and it just so happens that the ultra wealthy are pretty influential with regards to laws being made related to taxes (and all issues really). Just remember, in this country we have freedom of speech, but all speech isn't equal. The wealthy have far more connections and significant amounts of money to throw at lobbying politicians and advertising their beliefs. Law makers also are generally pretty wealthy people, and are friends with wealthy people, they are certainly under a lot of pressure to keep taxes on the wealthy low and sell this to the country as a benefit. If you make millions a year, or even hundreds of thousands, it should be an issue to pay larger taxes to support the country that has made you so rich. I'm not talking about government handouts, I'm talking about taxes to fund things like infrastructure, education, etc. Getting rid of the bush tax cuts should not make a difference to any wealthy person who is semi competent in managing their money.

Off my soap box. Goodnight.

[fiftytakedowns]

you wouldnt have to donate to charities to feed the children if the government supplied food for the people already.

in that case a socialism/communism wins.

not saying I believe in either, just using logic here.

[reelop19]

Did you know our poor are richer than 70% of the world. Socialism and Communism don't feed their poor. Thats funny you think so though.

[ZM Blue Devil]

I donate parts to needy e30 owners. Does that count?

[E-Thirty]

I donate parts to needy e30 owners. Does that count?

Where's my handout?

[Massive Lee]

I donate parts to needy e30 owners. Does that count?

Most likely you are an evil socialist.

[kronus]

Did you know our poor are richer than 70% of the world. Socialism and Communism don't feed their poor. Thats funny you think so though.

you should maybe do some reading instead of getting your facts from Fox news.

[joshh]

The top 5% have some of the lowest tax rates ever in the last 100 years. If rolling back bush era tax breaks will make them cry this much, I'd hate to see the stink they raise if we went back to a 40's era tax structure.

Have you ever seen the wealth distribution? The top 5% of people have over 60% of the wealth in the country. That leaves the other 95% of us to handle the 40% that is left over. I kind of have a problem with this. Wanting to bring things to a better balance doesn't make me a socialist. We weren't a socialist nation in the 20's or the 40's.

They also pay around 40% of our taxes. is that fair?







Just in case some of you aren't following along here. Obama and his idea of salvation would require a "forced" donation. It would be a requirement not a real donation.

[reelop19]

Why should I do research when I can post unsubstantiated facts on a message board much like you just did?

[reelop19]

Oh and P.S. I don't have Fox News because I don't have cable

[balooshinakus]

They also pay around 40% of our taxes. is that fair?


Just in case some of you aren't following along here. Obama and his idea of salvation would require a "forced" donation. It would be a requirement not a real donation.

Just to be clear, Obama isn't raising taxes, Obama is letting temporary tax cuts expire, which is what they were meant to do.

To answer your question though, it is perfectly fair they pay a higher tax rate. Do you feel that everyone should pay the same tax rate? Basically every society out there functions on the basis that those who are well off pay a larger percentage of their wages to society. Overall, they are still making significantly more money then their neighbors.

Lets also not forget that it is only income over that ~$250k mark that gets the high tax rate, all the income they make below that level gets taxed at a lower rate. Seems fair to me. Your first ~35k gets taxed like everyone else, first ~250k gets taxed like everyone else. You go over the tax bracket and your additional income gets taxed slightly higher. It's really not a big deal. I don't know any wealthy people who's lives and standards of living would be affected by paying a couple more % in taxes for their income over 250k.

[Massive Lee]

I don't know any wealthy people who's lives and standards of living would be affected by paying a couple more % in taxes for their income over 250k.

And usually people who make that much money have enough leftover to invest it in whatever plan and have it deducted through another tax loop. At the end, they don't pay anymore tax than somebody who earns much less. But on the long term, they will get their money back when they retire while the commoner will be still be starving on their pension plan...

How many here make more than $250k per year? :up:

[kronus]

How many here make more than $250k per year? :up:

This is precisely the question. Why do our resident paranoid conservatives stick up for the extremely wealthy as stubbornly as they do?


(their answer is, of course, that the wealth is supposed to "trickle down".)

[joshh]

Just to be clear, Obama isn't raising taxes, Obama is letting temporary tax cuts expire, which is what they were meant to do.

To answer your question though, it is perfectly fair they pay a higher tax rate. Do you feel that everyone should pay the same tax rate? Basically every society out there functions on the basis that those who are well off pay a larger percentage of their wages to society. Overall, they are still making significantly more money then their neighbors.

Lets also not forget that it is only income over that ~$250k mark that gets the high tax rate, all the income they make below that level gets taxed at a lower rate. Seems fair to me. Your first ~35k gets taxed like everyone else, first ~250k gets taxed like everyone else. You go over the tax bracket and your additional income gets taxed slightly higher. It's really not a big deal. I don't know any wealthy people who's lives and standards of living would be affected by paying a couple more % in taxes for their income over 250k.

So it's "fair" to tax those that are more successful just because they are more successful? And we should also take a grade away from those students that work hard to get "A"s in school as well correct? Because they are also successful.
Those that make 250K or more a year hire the most people in this country. No questions about it.
You want to punish those that are more successful because you aren't that successful. And you obviously have this idea it will somehow benefit the rest of us by taxing the rich more even though the Government wastes more money on bullshit than it does on things that actually help us.

This is precisely the question. Why do our resident paranoid conservatives stick up for the extremely wealthy as stubbornly as they do?


(their answer is, of course, that the wealth is supposed to "trickle down".)

LMFAO, that's a Liberal idea. Tax more and you'll somehow get all these extra benefits.

Most Conservatives back the rich because we know they are the job creators and that the economy relies mostly on the rich creating those jobs. It would be nice if Liberals could finally come to terms with it being okay for others to be successful.