CA Residents: Prop 19

[Rodoni]

http://calpotnews.com/government/ballot-initiatives/full-text-of-regulate-control-and-tax-cannabis-act/

Discussion is mostly for CA residents because it doesn't really affect out of state people, yet. Feel free to chime in though

Think it will pass?
Views/opinions?
Good/bad idea?

Discuss.

[joshh]

http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=184857

[z31maniac]

I hope it does pass. Because it will help influence what happens in other states re: the issue.

[Rodoni]

http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=184857

Read through that thread. Whole different subject. MJ has been decriminalized in Santa Cruz for awhile now... that's old news dude.

[kronus]

It will be a wonderful thing if it passes. However, it probably won't pass. California has a remarkable number of very socially conservative people living in the hills.

[joshh]

Read through that thread. Whole different subject. MJ has been decriminalized in Santa Cruz for awhile now... that's old news dude.

From the OP's post...

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/october012010/schwarzenegger-marijuana.php

Because of prop 19.

[pureaudio]

It will be a wonderful thing if it passes. However, it probably won't pass. California has a remarkable number of very socially conservative people living in the hills.

Bullshit, the weed issue is not a liberal vs. conservative fight at all...it is all types of people that are for and against it.

I will be voting for it. I do not agree with the fact that people can grow it on a residential property, I think that will open neighboring houses up for theft that may have not been a problem before, it should only be commercial in my opinion. Other than that, I don't see any problems though so it will get a yes from me.

I really have no idea if it will pass or not, everyone I talk to about it has differing opinions, guess we will see in November.

[kronus]

Bullshit, the weed issue is not a liberal vs. conservative fight at all...it is all types of people that are for and against it.

I will be voting for it. I do not agree with the fact that people can grow it on a residential property, I think that will open neighboring houses up for theft that may have not been a problem before, it should only be commercial in my opinion. Other than that, I don't see any problems though so it will get a yes from me.

I really have no idea if it will pass or not, everyone I talk to about it has differing opinions, guess we will see in November.

Please, look at my post where it says "socially conservative". This is different from the fiscally conservative, socially liberal "don't fuck with my rights and desires to do things that don't affect other people" group.

By socially conservative, I mean the MADD, religious, and prohibitionist groups that staunchly oppose prop 19.

[reelop19]

Freedommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!

[Rodoni]

At first I felt like it will pass, but now I'm 50/50 on the outcome. But I do feel that if it doesn't pass this year, it will later on down the road as the younger (current generation) starts to "outlast" the older generation.

I don't agree about breaking into house though. I don't see how this one bill would cause more theft. Just because it will be legal to grow doesn't mean people will. What are the odds that people break into your house for your plants/stash and they ready? Odds are they'll be useless.

Unless you are saying that your neighbor is growing and your house gets broken into by mistake etc.

[deutschman]

Bullshit, the weed issue is not a liberal vs. conservative fight at all...it is all types of people that are for and against it.

I will be voting for it. I do not agree with the fact that people can grow it on a residential property, I think that will open neighboring houses up for theft that may have not been a problem before, it should only be commercial in my opinion. Other than that, I don't see any problems though so it will get a yes from me.

I really have no idea if it will pass or not, everyone I talk to about it has differing opinions, guess we will see in November.

here is my question.
if everyone can grow it legally why would anyone want to steal it? there would be no reason to steal weed if you could just plant some for your self right?
i don't like the idea of it going commercial because it will put lot of small farmers out of business.
on the other hand it will make lots of money for california as a cash crop and maybe we can get some of our social and school programs back on track in a few years.
there are a lot of pros and cons.
i also agree that is is not a dem vs. rep issue. i know a lot of very conservative people in california that smoke weed.
many of the people who grow it are conservative.
guess what part of america makes the most money off of weed other then califonia.... appalachia. i think we can designate appalachia as conservative.

[pureaudio]

Please, look at my post where it says "socially conservative". This is different from the fiscally conservative, socially liberal "don't fuck with my rights and desires to do things that don't affect other people" group.

By socially conservative, I mean the MADD, religious, and prohibitionist groups that staunchly oppose prop 19.

Alright, I misread, I'll eat some crow on that one...

here is my question.
if everyone can grow it legally why would anyone want to steal it? there would be no reason to steal weed if you could just plant some for your self right?
i don't like the idea of it going commercial because it will put lot of small farmers out of business.
on the other hand it will make lots of money for california as a cash crop and maybe we can get some of our social and school programs back on track in a few years.
there are a lot of pros and cons.
i also agree that is is not a dem vs. rep issue. i know a lot of very conservative people in california that smoke weed.
many of the people who grow it are conservative.
guess what part of america makes the most money off of weed other then califonia.... appalachia. i think we can designate appalachia as conservative.

People are really stupid so just because they can grow it, doesn't mean they can actually grow it, I don't know I guess that is just my first concern even if unjustified.

[Massive Lee]

Is California gonna be home of reggae now?

Legalize it!!!! But just as with boozes and cigs, make it legal for over 18 years old.

[Rodoni]

Is California gonna be home of reggae now?

Legalize it!!!! But just as with boozes and cigs, make it legal for over 18 years old.

its for 21 and older (to grow and smoke) , Lee.

[Massive Lee]

Oups. I forgot that the drinking age was 21 in the US. But yeah. It would make sense if the law is enforced. Also, the same way that drinking is prohibited while or before driving, the same principle shall be applied with weed. No weed at work either.

Would allowing weed be a moral breach in our society? Perhaps, but much less than alcool. and less damaging than cigarettes. Both being legal and morally accepted.