I'm feeling richer already....

[mar1t1me]

Well, if NPR funding gets cut, when I couple that with the "huge" savings from killing ACORN, I will be about eleven cents richer. So will you. Don't spend it all in one place.

Never mind the fossil fuel subsidies and other forms of corporate welfare the Tea Partiers chose to ignore. The oil subsidies alone cost each US citizen (not just taxpayer) over $300 annually. If I add corporate welfare to mix, the whole package looks more like $1000/yr. when taking the lowest estimate I could find into consideration.

Gawd, politicians are such whores. And voters such suckers.

[CorvallisBMW]

"The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter"

-Sir Winston Churchill

[mrsleeve]

Let see some "oil Subsidies " Link. LOL The govt make more on OIL than BIG oil. In the last 25 year the O/G industry had paid 2.2T to the govt, which is about 3 times their NET profits for the same period.

Whos pockets do you think that 2.2T came from???

[z31maniac]

Well, if NPR funding gets cut, when I couple that with the "huge" savings from killing ACORN, I will be about eleven cents richer. So will you. Don't spend it all in one place.

Never mind the fossil fuel subsidies and other forms of corporate welfare the Tea Partiers chose to ignore. The oil subsidies alone cost each US citizen (not just taxpayer) over $300 annually. If I add corporate welfare to mix, the whole package looks more like $1000/yr. when taking the lowest estimate I could find into consideration.

Gawd, politicians are such whores. And voters such suckers.

Is that based on population or tax payers? :D

[mar1t1me]

Is that based on population or tax payers? :D

Population. The numbers would roughly double if we took all the people who did not file a tax return out of the equation.

22 cents. Per year. OMG.

But that also means those corporate welfare dollars double, too. Now real taxpayers are looking at $2000 a year.

Mr. Sleeve: Big Oil and Big Gov have been in bed together so long it's hard to tell where one ends and the other begins. And they like it like that.

[Joey Link]

I don't care the cost, waste is waste.

[mar1t1me]

I don't care the cost, waste is waste.

Now, we just have to determine exactly what "waste" is.....

[joshh]

Now, we just have to determine exactly what "waste" is.....

Yeah because funding hard core left or right is the correct thing to spend any money on.

[mar1t1me]

Yeah because funding hard core left or right is the correct thing to spend any money on.

Please point out the "hard core left" elements of this NPR programming:

Let's see....

Classical music. Pretty much all day, with educational musical programming. All those "hosts"? Left-wing propaganda spreaders? Nope. Just spinning some classical tunes for the folks on a nickel a year. I found out that several of those "hosts" are unpaid volunteers.

Did you think NPR was a left-wing version of the Rush Limbaugh show?

How about our Anchorage station?

Please point out the shows you know to push a "hardcore" left-wing agenda. I've never heard one.

We were in Dayton last week and I listened to this station.

I heard about a lot of things, but Fox News-style pundits with a big left wing push? Not present. Not even a little. Look at this article-about a black Republican. Please quote and repost the hardcore left elements. Good luck with that.

Pretty good programming seeing as how it's 98% listener funded.

But it won't stop Sarah and the gang from pointing at broadcasting music composed by Stravinsky and Prokofiev who were Russian composers as a sign that NPR supports communism and socialism. Or that by broadcasting Wagner, who was a favorite composer of Hitler as a sign that they are pro-Nazi. LOL

Waste? Have you forgotten that many of the same politicians who are coming out of the woodwork to attack this horrible "waste" also voted for the $700B Bush bailout? Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

[mrsleeve]

Mr. Sleeve: Big Oil and Big Gov have been in bed together so long it's hard to tell where one ends and the other begins. And they like it like that.

you live in AK you get a check from Big oil every year. Anyway here read, learn edu-ma-kate your self. Its short.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1168.html

[mar1t1me]

you live in AK you get a check from Big oil every year. Anyway here read, learn edu-ma-kate your self. Its short.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1168.html

I totally understand the industry, at least on paper, pays lots of taxes. Fine. I also see that, from their own reports, they pretty much always post handsome profits. Profits are, presumably, what's left after everything else is paid for. Exploration, drilling, hardware, payroll, etc.

So far so good. In this country, companies pay taxes on profits. Or are supposed to, and are also supposed to conduct their business in such a way that basically two things happen. One-they protect short term profits, and two, seek ways to keep themselves relevant in the future so that future profits are more or less assured. They should do this all by themselves, right?

So my problem is not with anything we've seen so far. My problem is that this industry seems to require vast sums of money thrown at it to get it to remain profitable.

Here's a list.

Up to $232B a year to get oil companies to do smart, sustainable things, and another $16B for ethanol?

That's the part I don't get. And taxpayers shouldn't have to foot the bill for any of it. The system seems like nothing more than a way to hide the true costs. You pay X at the pump, unaware of how much extra you are actually paying in the form of backdoor money. I don't want a check from big oil. I want them to stand on their own, like my business has to.

One of the biggest issues in this country, in my opinion, is that consumers have no idea of the true costs of things. I think it's time they learn. But they won't want to! Woe betide the politician who states "we are ending government subsidies of all fossil fuels. Prepare to pay $5+ at the pump as you help us toward a deficit-free America....."

[Massive Lee]

The govt make more on OIL than BIG oil.

Have you considered the money spent by the governement to secure the "sources"? - Aka wars in the Middle East (Iraq, Koweit, soon Iran, Afghanistan for the gazeoduc), etc.). They most likely cost more than any revenue from oil taxation. Plus lives on both sides. Only the CEOs and shareholders get rich. Citizens pay way more than a few $ per gallon...

[mrsleeve]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Really your gonna go there ?????? I mean seriously your gonna go there???? Now you have to be trolling you cant be that stupid.

Nice try THERE IS NO OIL IN A-STAN we have had that conversation remember, the one with all the pictures and shit I posted for you, it was like a kids color and and learn, to make it easy for you to comprehend, I guess it didn't work.. As far as the rest of that I dont have time no energy to go into it.


Ship guy: Same goes to you I have made my point, Oil sells 100's ob billions of gallons of Products every year, they make 6-9% on each gallon of product. They were the founders of the sell thin and by volume model. IIRC it was XOM that paid the govt 42B in just windfall profits taxes in 2007.

[joshh]

Please point out the "hard core left" elements of this NPR programming:

Let's see....

Classical music. Pretty much all day, with educational musical programming. All those "hosts"? Left-wing propaganda spreaders? Nope. Just spinning some classical tunes for the folks on a nickel a year. I found out that several of those "hosts" are unpaid volunteers.

Did you think NPR was a left-wing version of the Rush Limbaugh show?

How about our Anchorage station?

Please point out the shows you know to push a "hardcore" left-wing agenda. I've never heard one.

We were in Dayton last week and I listened to this station.

I heard about a lot of things, but Fox News-style pundits with a big left wing push? Not present. Not even a little. Look at this article-about a black Republican. Please quote and repost the hardcore left elements. Good luck with that.

Pretty good programming seeing as how it's 98% listener funded.

But it won't stop Sarah and the gang from pointing at broadcasting music composed by Stravinsky and Prokofiev who were Russian composers as a sign that NPR supports communism and socialism. Or that by broadcasting Wagner, who was a favorite composer of Hitler as a sign that they are pro-Nazi. LOL

Waste? Have you forgotten that many of the same politicians who are coming out of the woodwork to attack this horrible "waste" also voted for the $700B Bush bailout? Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Right, NPR has absolutely no connection to any AM stations or any of their affiliates....and....

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130183605&ft=1&f=1057

"The Nation" ....."partner content"....don't miss that part. Yup 100% non biased alright....
Do you think if NPR were as neutral as you wish they were that they would put that horseshit on their site?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130262611

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129992541&ft=1&f=1057

http://www.npr.org/search/index.php?searchinput=progressive

Yeah 98% of listeners give them money....including George Soros. You don't call him a lefty, or would you rather call him buddy?
Even from a very liberal source....

http://theview.abc.go.com/forum/george-soros-donates-18-million-npr-0

Pretty well known information if you keep track at all. From many sources.
Here's another super liberal link showing the donation.

http://mediamatters.org/print/research/201010220036

Maybe you just can't see it because you yourself are very liberal.


Content Partners...

http://www.theroot.com/

http://www.tnr.com/

http://www.nationalreview.com/

http://www.thenation.com/

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/

All so neutral aren't they.

[mar1t1me]

Maybe you just can't see it because you yourself are very liberal.

That's funny. My friends do not consider me a liberal, and since they know quite a bit more about me than you ever will, I'll go with them on this one.

Can you find "progressive and liberal" content on npr.org? You bet your ass. But I'm pretty sure I've listened to many more hours of radio of all kinds than you have (that's all we had when I grew up in the '60s/70's) and will have to say I have never heard anything like what was in the first link from "The Nation" during a NPR broadcast. That link must not have been noticed by many, either. Only 5 comments? That's really a threat, huh? I have heard plenty of thoughtful dissent covering both sides of the aisle.

And will you find all the other kinds of incredibly diverse programming-the arts, science, non-partisan educational programming, and all the rest anywhere else?

No. Were it not for NPR, classical music would never be heard on the air. Nor would many, many artists playing the kinds of music that aren't commercial enough to sell lots and lots of records.

Mainly I like NPR because it doesn't spend nearly as much time trying to cook up issues just to piss me off all the while directing it's viewers from the real issues! Search the blogs at Fox Nation and you will find only two entries mentioning "Medicare". It's one of the biggest Federal budget lines at nearly $800B, but barely gets mentioned and never dealt with directly. Search "NPR" and you get two pages even though its cost pales to the majority of of other ways the gov't spends money. All of Fox's pundits-their cute snarkiness, weeping and gnashing of teeth and utter distortions of fact-leave me cold.

And tell me....what is balanced about this?

I loved this though:

The Fox Nation is committed to the core principles of tolerance, open debate, civil discourse, and fair and balanced coverage of the news. It is for those opposed to intolerance, excessive government control of our lives, and attempts to monopolize opinion or suppress freedom of thought, expression, and worship.

Unless of course you happen to be Muslim. Right?:nice:

I believe the Constitution belongs to all US citizens of all races and religions. If that makes me a liberal in your book, I can live with that.