The Libertarian Pledge to America --- Discuss

[z31maniac]

Starving children is definitely not one of the constitutional duties of the Federal Government
As I said before, murder is not one of the constitutional duties of the Federal Government.

1. Not the Fed's job to prevent children from starving.
2. Not the Fed's job to prevent death from lack of medication/care.

Keep in mind, I'm not advocating the starving of needy children, or the lack of medicine/care for seniors who have paid into the system all their lives.

Of course, that depends on how you interpret "general welfare of the people," but I don't think most scholars would say that's how the founders intended it be intrepreted. That is, that the "general welfare of the people" extends further than protecting your ability to pursue "life, liberty, happiness," vs literally providing you welfare.

[CorvallisBMW]

1. Not the Fed's job to prevent children from starving.
2. Not the Fed's job to prevent death from lack of medication/care.

Keep in mind, I'm not advocating the starving of needy children, or the lack of medicine/care for seniors who have paid into the system all their lives.

Of course, that depends on how you interpret "general welfare of the people," but I don't think most scholars would say that's how the founders intended it be intrepreted. That is, that the "general welfare of the people" extends further than protecting your ability to pursue "life, liberty, happiness," vs literally providing you welfare.

I agree to an extent. Remember that 90% of the things that the Federal Gov't does today didn't even exist in 1787, so of course they are not included in the Constitution. Environmental protection, transportation, education, labor, housing, space exploration, healthcare, energy, etc. None of those things existed or were even a twinkle in their imaginations. How could they write in to the constitution that which did not exist?

You can't fault the government for adapting with the times. And you can't expect to run the country the same way it was in 1787, that's simply impossible.

The founding fathers couldn't have dreamed of today's world, today's technology and today's complexity of issues. For people to say that they somehow predicted the future like a bunch of palm reading gypsies and wrote articles in to the constitution to deal with any and all scenarios for the rest of eternity is ludicrous.

I know you weren't saying that, but I've heard other argue that point before.

[e30e]

This guys article is bat shit insane

[joshh]

Charter schools are doing pretty damn well compared to their public counterparts, last I checked. Which things, specifically, would you not want privatized and why?

Charter schools are mostly Publicly funded.
Education wise I agree. Thankfully they are set up differently than a public school.

[Kruzen]

Government's job isn't to take care of me. Let private corporations fight for provision of a service. I guarantee you private industry could do it 9 times out of 10 better than governemnt.

[HellzMindPlaya]

Have any of you guys ever checked out TOLFA? (The On Line Freedom Academy)

It pretty much describes a way of doing things without a government... Seems like it should work.

[u3b3rg33k]

I would love to see the DoD's name restored to it's former glory (and true purpose).
The Department of War.

Why pull the wool over your own eyes?

[Wiglaf]

That is beyond Libertarian. Maybe spray and pray, see what sticks? The programs that have good reason to be there will be defended.