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    First Lady Forces a Handshake.

    I bet you guys have already seen this but man, it's like seeing how hundreds of years ago use to be like.



    Indonesia's pious information minister, Tifatul Sembiring, is in hot water for touching the hand of First Lady Michelle Obama, in what he describes as forced contact. The politician flaunts his conservatism as a Muslim and claims to avoid touching women who aren't family members, the Associated Press reports.

    Indonesia -- which has the world's largest Islamic population, the vast majority moderate -- had been debating how to handle encounters between the first lady and observant Muslim officials far in advance of the Obamas' arrival in the country Monday.

    Sembiring sought to deflect criticism by claiming Tuesday's skin-to-skin contact was all Michelle Obama's fault. "I tried to prevent [being touched] with my hands but Mrs. Michelle held her hands too far toward me [so] we touched," Tifatul Sembiring explained on his Twitter page (according to a translation provided in the AP report).
    Some local observers laughed at that idea, and one female reporter gleefully said he wouldn't be able to avoid shaking her hand anymore, AP reported.
    Video of the moment does seem to contradict Sembiring's characterization of the encounter -- but you be the judge. The video is below:

    Sembiring was part of a group of Indonesian dignitaries who greeted the Obamas in a receiving line when they arrived in Jakarta.
    Most Indonesian Muslims hew to more moderate versions of the faith that permit casual contact between the sexes. As a result, some Indonesians have assailed Sembiring's rationale for the handshake, suggesting that it's an example of conservative Muslim hypocrisy to excuse the sort of conduct that he readily castigates in others. The minister has blamed natural disasters on moral failings and has joked about AIDS, the Associated Press reports.
    Regional handshake kerfuffle aside, the visit is a big deal in Indonesia, where President Obama spent much of his childhood. According to the Associated Press, "Indonesians gathered around television sets across the country to watch the American president touch down. Children at the school he attended practiced a song dedicated to him just in case he visited."

    In public statements, Obama has likewise stressed the importance of the visit for him.
    "It's wonderful to be here, although I have to tell you that when you visit a place that you spent time in as a child as the president, it's a little disorientating," he told reporters Tuesday morning.
    The president and first lady will spend roughly 24 hours in the country, hoping to improve ties with the Muslim world and open up opportunities for American businesses.
    Click image to see photos of Michelle Obama touring India and Indonesia


    But Obama definitely appears to have his work cut out for him. Over the past several days, the presidential visit has sparked widespread protests from Muslims in the region.

    "We don't see the differences between Obama and Bush -- they both oppress Muslims, they both have blood on their hands," Ismail Yusanto, a spokesman for a Muslim group in Indonesia, told CNN. "That's why we reject Obama, and we don't believe that he's reaching out to Muslims."

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    Religious hypocrisy. I am glad the First Lady forced that orthodox Muslim to recognize her as a "full person" and not just an inferior female. Go girl! Go!!! She knew very well what she was doing by presenting and sustaining her hand.
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      #3
      Those kind of extreme views (Muslim or not) need to be removed from this planet.

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        #4
        Originally posted by StereoInstaller1 View Post
        Those kind of extreme views (Muslim or not) need to be removed from this planet.
        You are damn right. Now we need to persuade the Pope that women are not inferior to men and deserve to access priesthood too. :loco:
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          #5
          Agreed with both of you guys. It just sucks that when such 'orthodox' (or please correct me on what to call it) views come over to western countries and the laws that guarantee women's rights aren't taken advantage of because religion trumps law of the land in the community.... talking from experience.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Massive Lee View Post
            You are damn right. Now we need to persuade the Pope that women are not inferior to men and deserve to access priesthood too. :loco:
            And birth control.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Dozyproductions View Post
              Agreed with both of you guys. It just sucks that when such 'orthodox' (or please correct me on what to call it) views come over to western countries and the laws that guarantee women's rights aren't taken advantage of because religion trumps law of the land in the community.... talking from experience.

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                #8
                Read last sentence. Dozyprod talks about her experience as a woman.
                Last edited by Massive Lee; 11-10-2010, 09:43 AM.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Massive Lee View Post
                  Religious hypocrisy. I am glad the First Lady forced that orthodox Muslim to recognize her as a "full person" and not just an inferior female. Go girl! Go!!! She knew very well what she was doing by presenting and sustaining her hand.
                  The first lady did not force anything. The "conservative muslim" openly with a smile shook her hand. Watch the video.. Now he is getting backlash from it after his contradiction of statements.
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                    #10
                    lol. Yeah just woke up sentence. Im talking about how my friend's father is abusive to his wife and she will do nothing to report it. Like its against custom.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Massive Lee View Post
                      You are damn right. Now we need to persuade the Pope that women are not inferior to men and deserve to access priesthood too. :loco:

                      Why? Just curious. It's not your Religion, why do you care so much about what the "Pope" does or doesn't do in regards to the inner workings and politics of his Religion? Did you get Denied Priesthood on these grounds?

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                        #12
                        Once again fuck that ignorant country that complains to the UN about us. Next time she should body slam him, since she is bigger than he is.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by e30e View Post
                          Once again fuck that ignorant country that complains to the UN about us. Next time she should body slam him, since she is bigger than he is.



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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dozyproductions View Post
                            lol. Yeah just woke up sentence. Im talking about how my friend's father is abusive to his wife and she will do nothing to report it. Like its against custom.
                            Definitely a completely valid comparison. Definitely.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by e30e View Post
                              Once again fuck that ignorant country that complains to the UN about us. Next time she should body slam him, since she is bigger than he is.
                              with you 100% on this
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