This Looks Bad For Planned Parenthood?

[KenC]

Thanks for the red herring.

Not one abortion should be paid for with tax dollars.

Abortions aren't paid for with tax dollars.
They use the tax money to provide birth control, pap smears, and other medical services.

[KenC]

Yeah, you shouldn't even be allowed to buy name brand products when there is a generic equivalent.

No tobacco, alcohol or $5 starbucks coffee. Those are luxuries, not necessities.

I agree with the principle, but I'm worried about implementation of deciding which product brand is OK and which isn't. I think you'd have a ton of Kraft and Yoo-Hoo (does that shit still even exist, by the way?) lobbyists causing a shitstorm.

I'm not sure about other states, but you can't buy prepared foods, tobacco or booze with the cards here.

[e30e]

Where do you guys get that shit from? I have beaten the shit out of Bush and many things the R's have done yet several of you keep your nose to the "joshh is just a liberal hater" grindstone. The Republicans are a part of the problem.

I don't see it that way. Responsibility exists no matter what choice a person chooses to make. The better (pro survival) the choice the more responsible the choice. Because someone was raised in a very bad way does not excuse them of making good decisions that will help them later in life. I.E. We do not give people a free pass to break the law because they were raised poorly. And to put that problem on the backs of the rest of this society is wrong and unproductive.

Never said mistakes should get a free pass, but if you punish your child for something they had no clue they were doing wrong; who's the asshole the parent or the kid. Society wants to punish people for people's mistakes when they didn't know right from wrong due to there upbringing. That doesn't teach them right from wrong, it teaches them anger and to rebellion even more. This isn't waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles liberal speak, this is common sense from dealing with people.

[joshh]

And no one ever makes a mistake if the have an R or Tea Party stamp next to there name.

And responsibility is not universal, there are people out there raised by asshats who have not distilled values or credibility in there children. Who are now out fucking and creating more babies. I wonder sometimes with your posts whether your trolling or seriously that dense to see that not everyone is going have the same understanding (for better or worse) of people actions.

Planned Parenthood saved my ass when I was 17, I took my girlfriend at the time to get birth control, that's one less possible kid the state would of have to support when I was young.

When I did have my daughter at 21, I was not married and not happy with direction my life was going. At that time abortion was on the table; it didn't happen but even when my daughter was born she was on state health care for 3 years. That's three years my daughter being a drain on the tax system as soooooo many of you like to point out. I'm a somewhat responsible person but I made a mistake and for it I am a parent; who had the choice. Which is exactly what planned parenthood is there for, a choice.

Where do you guys get that shit from? I have beaten the shit out of Bush and many things the R's have done yet several of you keep your nose to the "joshh is just a liberal hater" grindstone. The Republicans are a part of the problem.

I don't see it that way. Responsibility exists no matter what choice a person chooses to make. The better (pro survival) the choice the more responsible the choice. Because someone was raised in a very bad way does not excuse them of making good decisions that will help them later in life. I.E. We do not give people a free pass to break the law because they were raised poorly. And to put that problem on the backs of the rest of this society is wrong and unproductive.

[jrhaile]

Yeah, you shouldn't even be allowed to buy name brand products when there is a generic equivalent.

No tobacco, alcohol or $5 starbucks coffee. Those are luxuries, not necessities.

My Wife is a SOM for Albertson's (she runs the front end) here in Liberty Lake, Washington. It's an upscale area yet the stories I hear from her about people using EBT cards makes me sick. These people will go so far to get alcohol that they will go into the beer cooler, empty out alcohol and wine into water bottles and then pay for the water bottles. It's unreal.

[z31maniac]

Yeah, you shouldn't even be allowed to buy name brand products when there is a generic equivalent.

No tobacco, alcohol or $5 starbucks coffee. Those are luxuries, not necessities.

[jrhaile]

That's why poor people stay poor. They continue to make bad financial decisions.

The amount of money it takes for a family of four to go get pizza could buy quite a bit of groceries.

Yet we continue to foot the bill for these people. Does anyone else not see the problem with this? Handouts do nothing to improve the situation for these people.

[z31maniac]

you can use the EBT card now for Pizza and fast food joints.

That's why poor people stay poor. They continue to make bad financial decisions.

The amount of money it takes for a family of four to go get pizza could buy quite a bit of groceries.

[e30e]

joshh, is a troll, plain and simple. It pisses everyone off, but they continue to respond to him. The only way to kill a troll is to ignore it.

And as far as your situation, no one is against a social safety net. And helping pick people back up after a rough time.

People are against Welfare "lifers", the lack of drug and alcohol testing for recepients, did you know most EBT systems also allow people to remove cash from the card that doesn't have to be used for groceries?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

The EBT card thing is on a state basis I do know that, Its insane here in Arizona, you can use the EBT card now for Pizza and fast food joints.

Joshh does not offend me, his trolling sometimes makes me wonder if he's just being Lee's exact opposite.

[z31maniac]

joshh, is a troll, plain and simple. It pisses everyone off, but they continue to respond to him. The only way to kill a troll is to ignore it.

And as far as your situation, no one is against a social safety net. And helping pick people back up after a rough time.

People are against Welfare "lifers", the lack of drug and alcohol testing for recepients, did you know most EBT systems also allow people to remove cash from the card that doesn't have to be used for groceries?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

[e30e]

Responsibility is universal. Do I really have to say that.

And no one ever makes a mistake if the have an R or Tea Party stamp next to there name.

And responsibility is not universal, there are people out there raised by asshats who have not distilled values or credibility in there children. Who are now out fucking and creating more babies. I wonder sometimes with your posts whether your trolling or seriously that dense to see that not everyone is going have the same understanding (for better or worse) of people actions.

Planned Parenthood saved my ass when I was 17, I took my girlfriend at the time to get birth control, that's one less possible kid the state would of have to support when I was young.

When I did have my daughter at 21, I was not married and not happy with direction my life was going. At that time abortion was on the table; it didn't happen but even when my daughter was born she was on state health care for 3 years. That's three years my daughter being a drain on the tax system as soooooo many of you like to point out. I'm a somewhat responsible person but I made a mistake and for it I am a parent; who had the choice. Which is exactly what planned parenthood is there for, a choice.

[z31maniac]

Yeah, that 300 million will do a whole lot of good otherwise. We can send it to Israel or build one F-22 or something.

That's exactly why the debt and deficit continue to spiral out of control. No amount can be too small. Granted I'm not staying defund PP, just saying that everything should be on the table.

Maybe if we grabbed $300mil here, $500mil there............then again, I'd save the budget crisis easily.

15% across the board, NO EXCEPTIONS. That includes defense, Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, everything.

[joshh]

Sounds to me like you're starting to pull the same shit from the same ass as Kronus.
Responsibility is universal. Do I really have to say that.

[ck_taft325is]

What did I say about responsibility exactly? Unless what you're saying is being poor makes you irresponsible?

[joshh]

Oddly Joshh, there's a middle ground that you seem unwilling to admit exists. The same bullcrap that any one side spouts is exactly that. ONE sided. Not every poor person is irresponsible and lazy. Not every rich person is obtrusively disdainful and unhearing of the needs of those around them. But, we like to think there is.

Tell me how responsibility isn't middle ground?