This Looks Bad For Planned Parenthood?

[BraveUlysses]

why should tax dollars subsidize a for profit company?
and if its not for profit, why should tax dollars be spent to pay for abortions, when 50% of the country is opposed to abortion?
personally i'm opposed to abortion, not for religious reasons, but because i have children and i value life. that does not mean i am opposed to someone else having an abortion. but why should i pay for yours?

what planned parenthood does would be provided by the private sector if there was no taxpayer funded planned parenthood.

What % of the procedures and services offered by PP are abortions?

Federally funded abortions are extremely limited, due to Hyde Amendment.

I don't think as much money gets to PP for abortions as much as conservatives wish it was true.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-2-2011/rape-victim-abortion-funding

[LBJefferies]

why should tax dollars subsidize a for profit company?
and if its not for profit, why should tax dollars be spent to pay for abortions, when 50% of the country is opposed to abortion?
personally i'm opposed to abortion, not for religious reasons, but because i have children and i value life. that does not mean i am opposed to someone else having an abortion. but why should i pay for yours?

what planned parenthood does would be provided by the private sector if there was no taxpayer funded planned parenthood.

It's going to be MUCH cheaper for your tax money to fund an abortion than to pay for years of schooling, health care, etc.

[mar1t1me]

Not what I had in mind when I started this thread, but why shouldn't planned parenthood get tax dollars?

These guys make a pretty good argument against.

Personally I think it should be a state-by-state thing, a service offered in the best interests of the taxpayers at large, to prevent the taxpaying public from being asked to support mothers who work in low-income fields, but cannot work, or lose their jobs because of the pregnancy. If the woman doesn't think she is ready to be a mom, then provide the abortion and add a reproductive education mandate so that we reduce the likelihood of a repeat performance. Oh, and leave the Feds out of it.

No system will be perfect, but this is not a new problem. It's about time we faced it on modern terms.

[gwb72tii]

Not what I had in mind when I started this thread, but why shouldn't planned parenthood get tax dollars?

why should tax dollars subsidize a for profit company?
and if its not for profit, why should tax dollars be spent to pay for abortions, when 50% of the country is opposed to abortion?
personally i'm opposed to abortion, not for religious reasons, but because i have children and i value life. that does not mean i am opposed to someone else having an abortion. but why should i pay for yours?

what planned parenthood does would be provided by the private sector if there was no taxpayer funded planned parenthood.

[Need4Speed1299]

Can someone give the video cliff notes or tldr it?

[e30e]

shit, i could make jesus, the virgin mary, mother theresa and gandhi look like the anti-christ if i edited the soundbites and visuals just right.

Sad fact is easy access to abortion for low-income, low intelligence people who are ill-equipped to care for and raise a child may be in the best interests of society at large. We have too many people in this country for the jobs available anyway...and since poor, stupid people are a drain on the system and don't pay enough taxes, fewer would be good, right? Certainly not a new thought!

A modest proposal.....

+1

[frankenbeemer]

Not what I had in mind when I started this thread, but why shouldn't planned parenthood get tax dollars?

[mrsleeve]

why is planned parenthood getting tax dollars?

really you have to ask this.

[gwb72tii]

why is planned parenthood getting tax dollars?

[mar1t1me]

I'm very familiar with Jonathan Swift and his satirical work.

Well, I included the link for the reason of putting my comments in the same light.

[chadthestampede]

I'm very familiar with Jonathan Swift and his satirical work.

[mar1t1me]

I agree with you a lot of the time but god damn are you annoyingly condescending.

Didn't click the link did you? Tongue in cheek, my good man.....tongue in cheek.....

People have been wresting with the dilemma of what to do with unwanted small humans for centuries.

Interesting:

Planned Parenthood, a perennial protest target because of its role in providing abortions, has notified the FBI that at least 12 of its health centers were visited recently by a man purporting to be a sex trafficker but who may instead be part of an attempted ruse to entrap clinic employees. From here.

And this:

In a statement, Planned Parenthood said Live Action visited two Central New Jersey clinics on Jan. 13, including the one in the video. A spokesman for Planned Parenthood said that, immediately after the visits, clinic employees told their managers and called local law enforcement. It was not immediately clear, however, whether the woman in the video notified management or police.

The statement says "appropriate action is being taken" into the woman's actions.

And this:

After eight clinics reported the same strange visit within five days, Planned Parenthood reached out to the FBI, via a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder, calling for an investigation into a potential sex trafficking ring. In the letter, Planned Parenthood notes that the visits had all the earmarks of a hoax.

Sloppy, sloppy.....

[xwill112x]

It's simple, leave the people the fuck alone and stop giving them hand outs that makes them keep coming back for. But first is to fix the education system in this country.
Make people take responsibility for their choices.

well said! :hitler:

[frankenbeemer]

Makes them look bad??
Government funded abortions is a good thing now. Planned Parenthood is a group of fucking hacks. I know first hand.

It's simple, leave the people the fuck alone and stop giving them hand outs that makes them keep coming back for. But first is to fix the education system in this country.
Make people take responsibility for their choices.

Not convinced that Planned Parenthood is a bunch of hacks. I'm more interested in why most major news outlets are using the word "hoax" in this story. Example:

http://www.examiner.com/humanist-in-...ing-video-hoax

It looks like yellow journalism to me. Lots of key words like "scheme", "backfired", calling O'Keefe a "criminal", but no analysis of the video itself. I was under the impression that Planned Parenthood serves a need, I still feel that way, but am concerned, and am unclear on how this has backfired on Liveaction.

Any sources for a better or more in depth analysis?

[joshh]

Makes them look bad??
Government funded abortions is a good thing now. Planned Parenthood is a group of fucking hacks. I know first hand.

It's simple, leave the people the fuck alone and stop giving them hand outs that makes them keep coming back for. But first is to fix the education system in this country.
Make people take responsibility for their choices.