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  • Turf1600
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 9815

    #31
    Originally posted by NKRoberts
    Come on. Exaggerate much?
    What about that is an exaggeration?
    "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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    • z31maniac
      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
      • Dec 2007
      • 17566

      #32
      Originally posted by Turf1600
      Look, the dude above was arguing that the main goal was safety and that he's happy with the result. I'm only saying that the world is not a safer place today that it was with bin laden in it. Simple, right?
      I doubt were safer as well, but you've been going on about how all death is bad and we shouldn't have etc.

      So I'm asking, how you to justify keeping him alive?
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      • mar1t1me
        E30 Modder
        • Sep 2009
        • 863

        #33
        Originally posted by LBJefferies
        Bin Laden was GUILTY of murdering thousands of innocent people.
        Although the FBI formally indicted and charged bin Laden for the 1998 US Embassies bombing, he was never charged for 9/11 due to a lack of evidence. Nor has the supposed "confession tape" been allowed to be independently investigated for legitimacy. He did, however make a handy scapegoat. Deception and misdirection are the stock in trade at the CIA.

        I, personally, do not believe he was at the center of the plot. I believe that answer lies a lot closer to home. And that is far scarier. Does the "Reichstag Fire" mean anything to you?

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        • Turf1600
          R3V OG
          • Nov 2006
          • 9815

          #34
          Originally posted by Rsully70sev
          I'm over this, I'll leave the ethical debates alone here at R3V. As Danny said, were aren't going to convince eachother otherwise.

          I have my opinions, you have yours. I had family in NY during the time of the attack, my cousin was an economist from San Francisco who was killed in the towers visiting on business. Can you imagine being fresh out of college, landing a job at a fortune 500 company, excited to travel on business, and have that happen? Can you image being in my aunt's shoes watching the news, knowing your son was inside the building? All his efforts, ambition, and accomplishments destroyed and/or ended for what? Call it vengeance, revenge, justification, vindication, what ever you want. I'm happy with the outcome, and empathize with the other families effected by the hand of Bin Laden.
          So long as you're satisfied with yourself I suppose that's all that matters. As far as I'm concerned you have nothing with which to back your argument but feelings. However, don't try to criminalize me. I share all of the same negative feelings that you do. I just don't find any joy in the outcome.
          "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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          • Rsully70sev
            R3VLimited
            • Sep 2010
            • 2391

            #35
            I NEVER said we were safer without Osama. Don't misconstrue my words, I said our military's objective is safety and to protect its citizens. And it is. No shit killing Osama isn't going to end terrorist attacks. Switching up your argument?

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            • Rsully70sev
              R3VLimited
              • Sep 2010
              • 2391

              #36
              I can say the same about you? You're entire argument revolves around the bible and morality. Ive got news for ya, not everyone identifies with the same morals, values, and religious affiliation as you.

              And same negative feelings towards the situation? You compared the deaths of thousands of innocent people to Osama Bin Laden's. Obviously you don't.

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              • NKRoberts
                E30 Modder
                • Aug 2010
                • 909

                #37
                Originally posted by Turf1600
                What about that is an exaggeration?
                You said you witnessed 90% of the country celebrating. That right there, yeah thats the exaggeration.

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                • z31maniac
                  I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 17566

                  #38
                  Originally posted by mar1t1me
                  Although the FBI formally indicted and charged bin Laden for the 1998 US Embassies bombing, he was never charged for 9/11 due to a lack of evidence. Nor has the supposed "confession tape" been allowed to be independently investigated for legitimacy. He did, however make a handy scapegoat. Deception and misdirection are the stock in trade at the CIA.

                  I, personally, do not believe he was at the center of the plot. I believe that answer lies a lot closer to home. And that is far scarier. Does the "Reichstag Fire" mean anything to you?
                  Or "Operation Northwood"?
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                  • z31maniac
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 17566

                    #39
                    But as far as terror is concerned, what country does a lot of backing for terrorist organizations? Iran.

                    For an idea of what we are dealing with? These people believe in magic, as in sorcerers casting spells on people to make things happen.

                    Iranian power struggle between president and supreme leader sees arrests and claims of undue influence of chief of staff


                    "Ayandeh, an Iranian news website, described one of the arrested men, Abbas Ghaffari, as "a man with special skills in metaphysics and connections with the unknown worlds".
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                    • Turf1600
                      R3V OG
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 9815

                      #40
                      Originally posted by NKRoberts
                      You said you witnessed 90% of the country celebrating. That right there, yeah thats the exaggeration.
                      Your reading comprehension skills have failed you.
                      "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                      • Turf1600
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 9815

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Rsully70sev
                        I can say the same about you? You're entire argument revolves around the bible and morality. Ive got news for ya, not everyone identifies with the same morals, values, and religious affiliation as you.

                        And same negative feelings towards the situation? You compared the deaths of thousands of innocent people to Osama Bin Laden's. Obviously you don't.
                        I'll respond to this in detail when I'm at a pc but it seems as if your reading comprehension skills are not up to speed either.
                        "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                        • gwb72tii
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 3864

                          #42
                          bin laden was a enemy combatant
                          we are at war with al-qaeda, and he's the head of al-qaeda
                          he is a legitimate military target

                          the fucker is responsible for the death of thousands of americans as well as muslims
                          the whole world should dance on his fucking grave, or at least piss in the ocean where he is now crab bait

                          period
                          “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                          Sir Winston Churchill

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                          • Farbin Kaiber
                            Lil' Puppet
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 29502

                            #43
                            Majority assumed, obligatory "You're not an American" post.

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                            • joshh
                              R3V OG
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 6195

                              #44
                              Osama=Dead as a fucking door nail. And anyone who sympathizes with him.....lol.
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                              • MarshallM
                                Wrencher
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 229

                                #45
                                I'm happy to see lots of people openly celebrating his death. Its been a long time since the troops had a honest to god we are the good guys killing bad guys victory that got people on the streets to cheer. Lately the only time people get on the streets are in protest of a military action. Its a huge moral booster for our military who need all the motivation they can to complete their missions in the middle east.

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