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  • Turf1600
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 9815

    #46
    Good news everyone: Al-Qaeda has vowed retaliation and the US is struggling to diffuse terror plots. Let's dance in the street!

    I'm going to bed. You guys make me sad. This sort of moral ambiguity and pseudo patriotism will destroy our country...
    "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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    • Turf1600
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2006
      • 9815

      #47
      Originally posted by joshh
      Osama=Dead as a fucking door nail. And anyone who sympathizes with him.....lol.
      No one here is sympathizing. Learn to read.
      "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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      • Turf1600
        R3V OG
        • Nov 2006
        • 9815

        #48
        Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
        Majority assumed, obligatory "You're not an American" post.
        I'm far more american than most. I feel that I would fit in better with the builders of our constitution than the bone headed hypocrites that litter the internet, though.
        "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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        • z31maniac
          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
          • Dec 2007
          • 17566

          #49
          Originally posted by Turf1600
          Good news everyone: Al-Qaeda has vowed retaliation and the US is struggling to diffuse terror plots. Let's dance in the street!

          I'm going to bed. You guys make me sad. This sort of moral ambiguity and pseudo patriotism will destroy our country...
          I'm still waiting for you to explain the benefits of keeping him alive, trying him, then executing him.............like we did with Saddam.
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          • Turf1600
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2006
            • 9815

            #50
            Originally posted by Rsully70sev
            I can say the same about you? You're entire argument revolves around the bible and morality. Ive got news for ya, not everyone identifies with the same morals, values, and religious affiliation as you.

            And same negative feelings towards the situation? You compared the deaths of thousands of innocent people to Osama Bin Laden's. Obviously you don't.
            • First, I'm an atheist. I'm calling out christians for abandoning their principles.
            • Morality and feelings are non synonymous. If you think that moral judgement and judgement based on your feelings are the same then I'm not even going to bother.
            • No shit not everyone has the same values as I. Apparently many have none at all. I hold myself to a high moral standard and work hard to maintain my integrity.
            • I did not compare the deaths resulding from 9/11 to the death of Bin Laden - I compared the events that followed. If you don't get that by now you are useless.
            "The events that followed were similar. I'm not commenting on whether either event was deserved. To us Bin Laden got what was coming to him - and obviously they felt the same way about 9/11. Who's right and who's wrong is obviously a matter of perspective. Having that said, that doesn't warrant similar behavior. Celebrating death seems below our level of civilization. Seeing that there are no real benefits of Bin Laden being dead I must conclude that everyone's happiness stems from the desire for revenge. This sort of behavior will never end unless someone (some population) gets it together."

            "My intuitions tell me that this is a reminder of past loss and an indication of future turmoil rather than some sort of accomplishment. "

            "I never argued whether or not the world is a better place with him in it. My problem is that so many people were so happy about it."

            "I'm not arguing that he wasn't guilty - but his death is no cause for celebration. There is no victory - only loss."
            Last edited by Turf1600; 05-06-2011, 09:00 AM.
            "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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            • Turf1600
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2006
              • 9815

              #51
              Originally posted by z31maniac
              I'm still waiting for you to explain the benefits of keeping him alive, trying him, then executing him.............like we did with Saddam.
              For the last time - I'm not arguing that he didn't deserve to die. He probably did but that's not my decision. I'm arguing that there is nothing about this situation that warrants celebration. There is no benefit. This is not a step required to accomplish some goal.You could easily argue that it has caused more harm than good - and at the end of the day human beings died. What the hell are people celebrating? The bottom line is that they are celebrating revenge. Vengance is useless! Only the overly emotional and void of morality would get so excited about such a stupid action.
              "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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              • Turf1600
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2006
                • 9815

                #52
                Originally posted by MarshallM
                I'm happy to see lots of people openly celebrating his death. Its been a long time since the troops had a honest to god we are the good guys killing bad guys victory that got people on the streets to cheer. Lately the only time people get on the streets are in protest of a military action. Its a huge moral booster for our military who need all the motivation they can to complete their missions in the middle east.
                I appreciate your service but no death is ever cause for celebration. If the soldiers on the other side are wrong to celebrate the death of a US soldier then how can we possibly be right to do the same in return?
                "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                • joshh
                  R3V OG
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 6195

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Turf1600
                  No one here is sympathizing. Learn to read.
                  “What kind of person celebrates death? It's amazing how people can HATE a man they have never even heard speak. We've only heard one side...”


                  I read that perfectly...He's an idiot. That is sympathizing.
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                  • Turf1600
                    R3V OG
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 9815

                    #54
                    Originally posted by joshh
                    “What kind of person celebrates death? It's amazing how people can HATE a man they have never even heard speak. We've only heard one side...”


                    I read that perfectly...He's an idiot. That is sympathizing.
                    Did you read the rest of the blog?
                    "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                    • joshh
                      R3V OG
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 6195

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Turf1600
                      Did you read the rest of the blog?


                      Where he tries to clarify what he "meant"...but just goes on to talk about how it's not okay to celebrate death....not the same thing at all.
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                      "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

                      ‎"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack Obama

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                      • joshh
                        R3V OG
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 6195

                        #56
                        Mendenhall’s response to Peterson’s comments: “@AdrianPeterson is correct in his anology of this game. It is a lot deeper than most people understand. Anyone with knowledge of the slave trade and the NFL could say that these two parallel eachother.”

                        There's another special comment from the guy.
                        Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                        "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

                        ‎"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack Obama

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                        • z31maniac
                          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 17566

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Turf1600
                          For the last time - I'm not arguing that he didn't deserve to die. He probably did but that's not my decision. I'm arguing that there is nothing about this situation that warrants celebration. There is no benefit. This is not a step required to accomplish some goal.You could easily argue that it has caused more harm than good - and at the end of the day human beings died. What the hell are people celebrating? The bottom line is that they are celebrating revenge. Vengance is useless! Only the overly emotional and void of morality would get so excited about such a stupid action.
                          Ahhh, so this whole thread was meant to stroke your ego about how enlightened you are?

                          Got it.
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                          • ck_taft325is
                            R3V OG
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 6880

                            #58
                            Turf, you have a very skewed view about a few things.

                            First of all, calling out Christians? What does that have to do with Bin Laden? I'm confused here to an extreme as to what Christians have to do with the death of Bin Laden. Was Seal team 6 comprised of only Christians? Or is "I assume that 10% of the country is Atheist that the other 90% is celebrating" mean that anyone non-Atheist is Christian?

                            On Forgiveness... what does Forgiveness have to do with Justice? What does Pacifism (that's the only word I can really come up with to define your Holier than Thou "morals" that you've said here in this thread...) accomplish in regards to a solution to Bin Laden? Or Al Queda in general? Or the Taliban? Or those bent on eradicating other's for the beliefs? Call them Terrorists or Extremists. Either or, what is your solution? Will it go something like, "IF we had not been so xyz we would never have encountered these issues in the first place..."

                            You seem to take lightly the freedoms you have and the cost of these freedoms. There will be those that singularly hate you because you are "Free". Al Queda are one of them. Bin Laden was one of them.

                            Back to Christianity and Bin Laden... wait, I'm still confused.
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                            • ck_taft325is
                              R3V OG
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 6880

                              #59
                              Originally posted by z31maniac
                              Ahhh, so this whole thread was meant to stroke your ego about how enlightened you are?

                              Got it.

                              Took the words right out of my head, man.
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                              • iamsam
                                Advanced Member
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 172

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Turf1600
                                For the last time - I'm not arguing that he didn't deserve to die. He probably did but that's not my decision. I'm arguing that there is nothing about this situation that warrants celebration. There is no benefit. This is not a step required to accomplish some goal.You could easily argue that it has caused more harm than good - and at the end of the day human beings died. What the hell are people celebrating? The bottom line is that they are celebrating revenge. Vengance is useless! Only the overly emotional and void of morality would get so excited about such a stupid action.

                                Yeah there is. Moral booster, etc. This was already mentioned.

                                Turf-man, from reading all of your posts in this thread, you seem very self-centered.

                                Also, not so sure it is all revenge. Killing him DOES cripple Al-Quaeda (however you spell that), although yes, it won't stop the attacks.

                                In other news, it would be bad ass if the next Call of Duty has killing Osama as the final level of the game.

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