Cops botched another no knock raid

[Rsully70sev]

I realize that, but I don't think a hero and a villan should be mentioned [or compared] in the same sentance in Guerena's situation. When discussing JFK's death, I'm sure they didn't say..."Much like Hitler, he suffered a bullet wound to he head"...

[mrsleeve]

^

I have family in Pima county still, and shit like this makes me worry for their safety

[e30e]

Mother fuck Tucson, so glad I DON'T live there anymore. Arizona's Sheriff's are all pieces of shit, yes ALL of them. I've dealt with multiple county sheriffs on too many occasions and can not understand what makes them think they are awesome while making a cool 30k a year because the cities wouldn't hire them.

[Dozyproductions]

WHY would they ever mention this man and OBL in the same sentance? I think that analogy was in poor taste.

But yes, this sickens me.

because he was killed in a likely manner.


Fuck im going to go for a run now to get all the anger out.

[Evan12]

The fact that they denied him treatment from paramedics and let him "gasp for air" in front of his family is disgusting. I agree with Joe G, hang the assholes out to dry.

[mrsleeve]

^

Yup totally agree with that. Some one had and accidental discharge and that was that. BULL SHIT

That is tragic. I hope his widow sues that department for all they are worth.

knee jerk. Unfortunately that does not really punish the department or the people responsible its punishing the tax payers that will ultimately have to pay that huge bill.

All those involved from the guys that carried out the raid to those that planed it, and ok'd it all need to be brought up on MURDER or ACCESSORY to murder and be tossed in prison for 20 to life.

IF there was real consequences for when shit like this happens for ALL involved there might be a little more over sight and care taken when everyone's ass is on the line if its WRONG

[Rsully70sev]

"While PCSD initially claimed Guerena fired the weapon he was alleged to have been holding, the department now says it was a misfire by one of the deputies that caused this deadly group panic inside a home containing a woman and a toddler"


"A deputy's bullet struck the side of the doorway, causing chips of wood to fall on his shield. That prompted some members of the team to think the deputy had been shot."

Stupid. As. Fuck. They fired 71 bullets in this guys house while he was unarmed with his wife and child---> Because a cop misfired. The police are an absolute joke, I'd be embarassed if I was in this line of work.

[Joe G]

That is tragic. I hope his widow sues that department for all they are worth.

[Rsully70sev]

WHY would they ever mention this man and OBL in the same sentance? I think that analogy was in poor taste.

But yes, this sickens me.

[mrsleeve]

Over Militarized cops cops fuck up and kill a 2 tour Marine in Tucson AZ and cant seem to get their story straight, as to why they shot him, and with wife and toddler in the home. Not to mention denied him medical treatment for over an hour.

YOU HAVE NO CLUE HOW MUCH THIS SHIT PISSES ME OFF.

http://reason.com/blog/2011/05/16/marine-survives-two-tours-in-i

"Please send me an ambulance and you can ask more questions later, please!"

Guerena tells the dispatcher that her husband had returned home about 6:30 a.m. after work and was sleeping.

Prompted by the dispatcher, Guerena says her husband was shot in the stomach and hands.

The dispatcher asks Guerena to put her cheek next to her husband's nose and mouth to see if he's breathing, but she replies in Spanish that her husband is face- down.

The operator tells Guerena to grab a cloth and apply pressure to his wounds, but the wife responds frantically: "I can't! I can't! There's a bunch of people outside of my house. I don't know what the heck is happening!"

A dispatcher asks if the people outside are the SWAT members. "I think it's the SWAT, but they ... Oh my God!" Guerena says.

A dispatcher asks that she open the door for the SWAT, but Guerena replies that the door was already opened by police.

"Is anybody coming? Is anybody coming?" she asks.

The operator tells Guerena help is on the way, but they're still trying to figure out what happened.

"I don't know, that's it, whatever I told you, that's it," Guerena says.

Just after the five-minute mark, Guerena's end of the line goes silent.

The two dispatchers spend about four minutes talking to each other and calling out for Guerena while trying to figure out if the call is coming from the same residence where the warrant was served. At the end of the 10-minute 911 call, a dispatcher says she has confirmation that Guerena is outside with deputies on the scene.

This is from Arizona Daily Star reporter Fernanda Echavarri's effort to piece together the death of Jose Guerena, 26, at the hands of a Pima County, Arizona SWAT team. Guerena, who joined the Marines in 2002 and served two tours in Iraq, was killed just after 9 a.m. May 5. Guerera had just gone to bed after working a 12-hour shift at a local mine when his home was invaded as part of a multi-house crackdown by sheriff's deputies.

Like enemy of the state Osama bin Laden, Guerena died with his wife close by. Widow Vanessa Guerena, who hid with her four-year-old son when sheriff's deputies raided the home, fills in detail that has been slow to come from Pima County Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnik’s office:

"When I came out the officers dragged me through the kitchen and took me outside, and that's when I saw him laying there gasping for air," Vanessa Guerena said. "I kept begging the officers to call an ambulance that maybe he could make it and that my baby was still inside.

The little boy soon after walked out of the closet on his own. SWAT members took him outside to be with his mother.

"I never imagined I would lose him like that, he was badly injured but I never thought he could be killed by police after he served his country," Vanessa Guerena said.

The family's 5-year-old son was at school that morning and deputies say they thought Guerena's wife and his other child would also be gone when they entered the home.

Guerena says there were no drugs in their house.

Deputies said they seized a "large sum of money from another house" that morning. But they refused to say from which of the homes searched that morning they found narcotics, drug ledgers or drug paraphernalia. Court documents showing what was being sought and was found have not been made public. A computer check on Guerena revealed a couple of traffic tickets and no criminal history.

Tucson KGUN’s Joel Waldman says the SWAT team prevented paramedics from going to work on Guerena for one hour and fourteen minutes.

The sheriff’s department maintains that Guerena was holding an AR-15 when the paramilitary force fired 71 bullets in his home, but other key parts of the government story have collapsed. While PCSD initially claimed Guerena fired the weapon he was alleged to have been holding, the department now says it was a misfire by one of the deputies that caused this deadly group panic inside a home containing a woman and a toddler:

A deputy's bullet struck the side of the doorway, causing chips of wood to fall on his shield. That prompted some members of the team to think the deputy had been shot, [PCSD spokesman Michael] O'Connor said.