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  • 87e30
    R3V Elite
    • Jul 2008
    • 5676

    #31
    lol good 'ol josh bringing an average discussion up 10 levels


    I'm fine with a white only scholarship, and while the creators may be trying to make a point I think a hypocritical thing to do.

    I suppose minority based scholarships will never go away so may as well add white scholarships too.
    Originally posted by z31maniac
    I just hate everyone.

    No need for discretion.

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    • joshh
      R3V OG
      • Aug 2004
      • 6195

      #32
      Originally posted by 87e30
      lol good 'ol josh bringing an average discussion up 10 levels


      I'm fine with a white only scholarship, and while the creators may be trying to make a point I think a hypocritical thing to do.

      I suppose minority based scholarships will never go away so may as well add white scholarships too.


      Hey I'll go the other way and also say money buying a kid a place in a college his grades didn't raise him to alone, is utter bullshit.
      Or a person's place in this world should have zero effect on whether their child makes it to the local CC or Harvard. Everyone should be held to the same standard. Even if that kid was born a dumbass. Tough shit.
      I'll leave it there for those who can't confront some of the real down to earth problems we're creating in this country.
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      • 87e30
        R3V Elite
        • Jul 2008
        • 5676

        #33
        Originally posted by joshh
        Hey I'll go the other way and also say money buying a kid a place in a college his grades didn't raise him to alone, is utter bullshit.
        Or a person's place in this world should have zero effect on whether their child makes it to the local CC or Harvard. Everyone should be held to the same standard. Even if that kid was born a dumbass. Tough shit.
        I'll leave it there for those who can't confront some of the real down to earth problems we're creating in this country.
        But put yourself into the management at Harvard's shoes when your buddy who has a kid you've known for much of his life and donates a ton of money to your program applies to your school.

        College is a business, and business relies on relationships. I'm not sure how I feel about it, but it's reality.
        Originally posted by z31maniac
        I just hate everyone.

        No need for discretion.

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        • T Verdier
          R3VLimited
          • Aug 2007
          • 2636

          #34
          remember when George costanza tried to prove to his black boss that he had a black friend by having the exterminator come to lunch with him? that was funny.

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          • 5Toes
            Banned
            • May 2010
            • 9836

            #35
            There are scholarships for only African Americans.

            Get over it

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            • joshh
              R3V OG
              • Aug 2004
              • 6195

              #36
              Originally posted by 87e30
              But put yourself into the management at Harvard's shoes when your buddy who has a kid you've known for much of his life and donates a ton of money to your program applies to your school.

              College is a business, and business relies on relationships. I'm not sure how I feel about it, but it's reality.


              You're absolutely right. All of that applies to Congress as well. No wonder we find ourselves in the position this country is in.
              What do we have if we don't have standards? Only allowing a certain few because of their status or cash flow is flat out wrong to me.
              Take college athletes for instance. These guys are pampered through college. Everything is paid for and more. Why? Because of their physical abilities. Their grades mean absolutely nothing to a college. What do we get from this? We get NFL athletes calling the way the NFL treats them as fucking slavery for Christ's sake. Or guys who get out of college and can't even read. Or they turn to drugs etc. All for the sake of money. Most of these athletes hardly know what it's like to have a 9 to 5 job.
              It fails the child to not hold them responsible for their own failures. Let them see life where everyone is on equal ground when it comes to the basics of life. That's how I see it. I see it as a standard and fairness.
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              "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

              ‎"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack Obama

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              • 87e30
                R3V Elite
                • Jul 2008
                • 5676

                #37
                Originally posted by joshh
                You're absolutely right. All of that applies to Congress as well. No wonder we find ourselves in the position this country is in.
                What do we have if we don't have standards? Only allowing a certain few because of their status or cash flow is flat out wrong to me.
                Take college athletes for instance. These guys are pampered through college. Everything is paid for and more. Why? Because of their physical abilities. Their grades mean absolutely nothing to a college. What do we get from this? We get NFL athletes calling the way the NFL treats them as fucking slavery for Christ's sake. Or guys who get out of college and can't even read. Or they turn to drugs etc. All for the sake of money. Most of these athletes hardly know what it's like to have a 9 to 5 job.
                It fails the child to not hold them responsible for their own failures. Let them see life where everyone is on equal ground when it comes to the basics of life. That's how I see it. I see it as a standard and fairness.
                Yeah, there should be some judgement in the decision, I will agree with you on that one. But assuming the person is deserving, then the person whom has built a relationship will get the job/scholarship/etc. And many people who do get lucky with connections are also deserving of what they get. There are flaws to everything, but the human relationship element isn't going away. It's a strange game...
                Originally posted by z31maniac
                I just hate everyone.

                No need for discretion.

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                • joshh
                  R3V OG
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 6195

                  #38
                  Originally posted by 87e30
                  Yeah, there should be some judgement in the decision, I will agree with you on that one. But assuming the person is deserving, then the person whom has built a relationship will get the job/scholarship/etc. And many people who do get lucky with connections are also deserving of what they get. There are flaws to everything, but the human relationship element isn't going away. It's a strange game...


                  The relationship side I have less of a problem with. Most of the time that has more to do with trust. But when money enters the relationship my hate flows.
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                  "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

                  ‎"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack Obama

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                  • 87e30
                    R3V Elite
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 5676

                    #39
                    Originally posted by joshh
                    The relationship side I have less of a problem with. Most of the time that has more to do with trust. But when money enters the relationship my hate flows.
                    It's a fine line, because naturally you want to give money to what you believe in.

                    Of course, there is a lot of bartering that goes on I'm sure. I'm sure many horrible things none of us know about. I'll plead ignorance is bliss on this one.
                    Originally posted by z31maniac
                    I just hate everyone.

                    No need for discretion.

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                    • Victell
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 1081

                      #40
                      If public money is to be granted to an individual for education then the circumstantial qualifiers, if any, should not include race.

                      If its private money, grant to whoever you want.
                      Last edited by Victell; 07-06-2011, 10:32 PM. Reason: clarity

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                      • joshh
                        R3V OG
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 6195

                        #41
                        Originally posted by 87e30
                        It's a fine line, because naturally you want to give money to what you believe in.

                        Of course, there is a lot of bartering that goes on I'm sure. I'm sure many horrible things none of us know about. I'll plead ignorance is bliss on this one.


                        I can only imagine.
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                        "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

                        ‎"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack Obama

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