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  • Massimo
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jan 2008
    • 3207

    #16
    ^
    Maybe, Maybe Not you will never know.

    We had a similar situation here with Kevin Rudd. Came in with all the wonderful pollices, taxing the rich and giving to the poor, and exceptional knowledge of the english language to divert you from the seriousness of the problem. In the end though he was replaced with a red head who has proven to be alot worse.
    Last edited by Massimo; 08-08-2011, 10:52 PM.
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    • mrsleeve
      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
      • Mar 2005
      • 16385

      #17
      ^

      Ours is the polar opposite of that lol we had the dolt 1st,
      Originally posted by Fusion
      If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
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      • LBJefferies
        Banned
        • Sep 2009
        • 1690

        #18
        Originally posted by joshh
        Is it still Bush's fault?
        You are deluded if you think that the ridiculous amount of spending under the Bush administration had nothing to do with the current state of things.

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        • z31maniac
          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
          • Dec 2007
          • 17566

          #19
          Bush spent what $1.5 Trillion in 8 years and Obama has spent nearly $6 TRillion in 2.5 years? And that doesn't even include the Healthcare Mandate.

          I'm not agreeing/liking/defending Bush, he was not a fiscal conservative. But Obama's spending is on a completely new level.
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          • tjts1
            E30 Mastermind
            • May 2007
            • 1851

            #20
            Originally posted by z31maniac
            Bush spent what $1.5 Trillion in 8 years and Obama has spent nearly $6 TRillion in 2.5 years? And that doesn't even include the Healthcare Mandate.
            If you swapped the 2 numbers around your guess would be a bit closer to reality.

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            • LBJefferies
              Banned
              • Sep 2009
              • 1690

              #21
              Originally posted by tjts1
              If you swapped the 2 numbers around your guess would be a bit closer to reality.
              QE1 and QE2, which aren't on that graph, have cost almost 3 trillion. Also, tax cuts aren't spending so the ass hole that made that graph needs to die. Even if you did consider tax cuts as spending then you would have to add that number to Obama's side of the graph because he extended the cuts.

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              • tjts1
                E30 Mastermind
                • May 2007
                • 1851

                #22
                Originally posted by LBJefferies
                QE1 and QE2, which aren't on that graph, have cost almost 3 trillion. Also, tax cuts aren't spending so the ass hole that made that graph needs to die. Even if you did consider tax cuts as spending then you would have to add that number to Obama's side of the graph because he extended the cuts.
                FAIL


                Quantitative easing doesn't come out of the federal budget. Its the Federal Reserve bank "printing" money to buy up existing US Treasury bonds on the open market. It doesn't cost the federal government anything. It reduces the cost of loans to businesses and individuals, reduce the federal debt burden and increase the rare of inflation.
                Last edited by tjts1; 08-09-2011, 03:11 PM.

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                • NKRoberts
                  E30 Modder
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 909

                  #23
                  Originally posted by tjts1
                  If you swapped the 2 numbers around your guess would be a bit closer to reality.
                  wouldn't you also have to include the tax cuts under obama as well since he extended them?

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                  • mrsleeve
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 16385

                    #24
                    Nice try there trolly your chart is very very Biased and still wrong.

                    Why do the theses fucking fucks consider tax cuts SPENDING, they are nothing of the sort.

                    Corvallis, I agree with you on this, bushes spending was nothing to scoff at and really was outta line as well


                    BUT..................................

                    Bush took office in 08 when the debt stood at 5.77Trillion. When he left office and handed the keys over the debt stood at 10.7 trillion most of that piled on at the very end of his term. Still though thats a deficit average of 625b per year


                    Obama takes over at 10.7trillion and as we stand right now the debts are 14.59trillion. SO the O is spending OUR money at more than double the pace bush did. This is a whole different league of burning money that we dont have, and we still dont know the TRUE costs of much of whaT HC is gonna be.
                    Last edited by mrsleeve; 08-09-2011, 09:58 PM.
                    Originally posted by Fusion
                    If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                    The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                    William Pitt-

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                    • joshh
                      R3V OG
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 6195

                      #25
                      Originally posted by LBJefferies
                      You are deluded if you think that the ridiculous amount of spending under the Bush administration had nothing to do with the current state of things.


                      Absolutely not. Our problems go back well before Bush. Bush was stuck with several potentials for economic collapse as well. Yeah he escalated the problems mostly with the wars but Obama has a huge part to play here.
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                      • mrsleeve
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 16385

                        #26
                        more perspective on this. The 0 administration increased the national debt more in 4 days than than Eisenhower and Truman combined did in all of the 1950's After being adjusted for inflation of course.

                        Last edited by mrsleeve; 08-10-2011, 02:30 AM.
                        Originally posted by Fusion
                        If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                        The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                        The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                        William Pitt-

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                        • tjts1
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • May 2007
                          • 1851

                          #27
                          Originally posted by NKRoberts
                          wouldn't you also have to include the tax cuts under obama as well since he extended them?
                          He extended them or the Republicans in congress forced his hand? Last I checked he fought the tax cut extensions every step of the way. See the many threads on the subject here.

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                          • Vedubin01
                            R3V Elite
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 5852

                            #28
                            Originally posted by tjts1
                            He extended them or the Republicans in congress forced his hand? Last I checked he fought the tax cut extensions every step of the way. See the many threads on the subject here.

                            What time did the republicans have the power to be able to force Obama's hand when these tax extensions were made?
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